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12/15/2015 10:04:45 PM
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343 aren't trying to destroy Halo purposefully
They're just very incompetent.
1.) They didn't learn from most of the issues people had with Halo 4. Cool, we have an awesome forge that allows us to build all these wacky and crazy things! Well, we still don't have the variety of custom games options to actually make our favorite game modes on those maps.
2.) They're very single minded. With Halo 4, the only players they had in mind were the laid back social players. Now with Halo 5, they're only aiming towards the hyper competitive. I suppose you could argue Warzone, but it leaves out all the players who would rather just have fun in Slayer or BTB, instead having to worry about an apparently arbitrary ranking system.
Don't forget about how they've left out nearly all of the social playlists that were very popular, including infection, action sack, grifball, etc. and not allowing them in custom games either.
3.) They miss opportunities to expand the game with nearly every decision they make. Look at those cool weapon variations in Warzone, too bad they're only in Warzone, and won't make an appearance in Forge.
Another would be the custom crafted HUDs in campaign. Each character gets their own unique HUD, and instead of building off of that and allowing more customization in Multiplayer, it's kept exclusively in campaign.
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In my opinion I find that the social aspect of Halo is lost. Which is the reason I loved it so much. In Halo 3 I met so many people, it was insane. Always playing good Custom Game lobbies, with amazing PvP. Bungie v.s. World was fun as shit for many reason that I won't get into. I was always in lobbies with people talking, and having fun. I think that started dying off after H3. Reach had it... Sorta. But it still had it.. Halo 4 rolls around had no fun in Customs, no fun in PvP.. No one talked, I met no one really from Halo 4. Halo 5 comes.. It's beautiful and smooth yes.. But NO ONE TALKS. The lack of options in custom games is sickening.. I play a lot of PvP when I play halo, but a lot of the time I want to dick around with my bros in custom games and get big lobbies like back in the day. But the lack of game types make it hard to forge a good fun custom game. Idk, I still love halo. But it needs some work....quite a bit of it actually..
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2 RepliesYou mention forge as being "awesome" but I don't even think it's that. The control scheme is over complicated, there's no traditional building objects and the maps are tiny. How does the forge in this 2015 game have smaller maps than halo 3 in 2007? I don't think 343 know how to develop a halo game properly. They can't even get all the content to be released on day one! Maybe they should start making a different style of games for an audience with lower standards? Oh wait! That's already happening! Old halo fans have been exiled, allowing space for younger, more gullible players to be manipulated instead! As you can tell I'm pretty pissed off right now. I'll return to halo 5 when its worth playing
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I heard that they're going to add in the variations of vehicles and weapons into forge later on.
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23 Replies'Labelled' 343 fanboy reporting in. Relevant.... [spoiler] https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/how-do-we-help-343-save-halo-5/fd73e2f6-4080-4339-9cb2-6ff8fc446b9c/posts https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/58b8518e005f432381ab99fbcaf931e0/topics/social-playlists-for-arena/2fc530d9-f066-4406-a89d-db43b89c2c92/posts [/spoiler]
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14 RepliesHalo died with reach
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Of course they aren't, they're still trying to undo the damage done to the franchise by lolReach.
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You mean they don't purposefully want to ruin their meal ticket? Odd.
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Still fun, but if they don't fix these things in updates i'd probably leave and go back to MCC. The teaser for the January update had a spartan with a Gravity Hammer on his back, so i'm thinking that might be a teaser for grifball. HOPEFULLY. (Pls 343)
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Edited by Divine Thunder2: 12/16/2015 1:45:00 PMYeah, they seemed to do really good with the singleplayer last game, but not so much multiplayer. Now this time, singleplayer is a little underwhelming yet the multiplayer is probably the best experience I've had playing halo yet. Custom games, however, haven't really had any improvements, especially since the massive lack of gametypes at launch as well as customization options. I really hope they straight this out soon for Halo 5 and hopefully don't make the same mistakes again for Halo 6. Honestly, they don't have to do too much for Halo 6. They just need to keep the same multiplayer (add some tweaks and maybe a couple new spartan abilities), make a really good singleplayer story with the focus on chief, and actually not -blam!- over custom games like they have for both Halo 4 and 5. ALSO, I want to have the old halo 4 customization options for armor where I could have different shoulders and chest pieces.
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I think there is a very fine line between killing Halo out of intention and incompetence, and I think 343i is currently walking that extremely fine line.
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15 RepliesEdited by Logfish111: 12/15/2015 11:44:17 PMYeh I've known that they're pretty incompetent for quite a while now. You don't need to have played many FPS games in your time to realise they don't know what the hell they're doing. I am past caring though, Halo is dead to me now and judging by H5's population it's dead to most other people as well.
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Edited by Eirikur: 12/16/2015 6:09:18 PMTL:DR 343i are really incompetent as a game studio.
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4 RepliesThe word is 'intentionally'. Also, you completely missed Campaign. Which was pretty crap. Worst since H3 by a country mile.
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2 RepliesLet's also not forget that: 1. 343 decided to turn the Spartan IV armor options from actual super soldier military forces into Garbage bin Bionicle cosplay. 2. Campaign was a huge mess that replaced the main character that everyone knows about with some guy that doesn't even have some sort of goal in mind (generic UNSC spartan with more dialogue than the others), chief's chapters where like only 4 and some of misions where literally "walk here and talk". 3. Custom games feels so dead, those social playlists should've been in the game from the start. 4. The dlc maps are literally forge remixes with the exception of the new Warzone map.
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12 RepliesI think you people take this far to seriously,could 5 have been better? Of course. But the nostalgia from past titles is clouding everyone's judgment, it's time to let halo die.
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2 RepliesFor your second point, big team is no longer ranked
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Halo 4: Criticised for catering to the casual audience Halo 5: Criticised for being too competitive
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Yeah, 343i is good at game design, but horrible at maintaining their game. Halo 4 had fantastic story, and a decent multiplayer, till they decided to take out all the fun game modes and consequently ruin forge.
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Halo 3 memories...nuff said:(
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1 ReplyI agree 100% they aren't ruining it they just can't capture the magic of the originals.
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Edited by Sola: 12/16/2015 2:56:58 PMthx OP, you is gud
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Agreed
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10 RepliesHonestly when I clicked on this I thought you'd be talking about the campaign. You know the actually failing part of Halo 5, not the excellent multiplayer that's probably one of the best and most progressive and inventive.
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4 RepliesEvery game in existence can be much better, that doesn't make the game awful in any way. It was very well done imo and they're adding free maps and content every month. Sure the campaign could've been better and longer and it'd be nice to have some social playlists. The introduction on warzone and the req packs I enjoy and were a great addition. Breakout is also a cool new mode. The new forge is supposed to be the greatest one yet, and I'm sure they'll add new game types. At least we have competitive modes back and the casual warzone. There's a lot of good they did too with halo 5. Imo reach was the worst Halo for multiplayer anyway, and that was all bungies doing.
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5 RepliesEdited by Onxide: 12/16/2015 8:08:47 AMAhhh Halo 4... the good ole days... [spoiler]I hope they make it reverse compatible lol I loved that game.[/spoiler]
