2 warlocks 2 hunters 2 titans Is that not a feasible way to complete it? Read this to understand why I believe warlocks are just as useful as any other. And before I continue, if you really want to spout "any class can do what warlocks can do so they're useless" no one was saying that a few months ago. And if all it takes is a simple subclass to change your mind, I pity you. [spoiler] Sunsinger can be applied in a multitude of ways simply based on altering what version of the super you use Song of flame: I know it's a little lack luster considering it's supposed to be used for assisting the team. However it can very much still stop wipes Radiant skin: put on touch of malice, melee an enemy and get a flame shield, INFINITE AMMO WITH THE SMALLEST REPERCUSSIONS COMPARED TO THE OTHER 8 SUB CLASSES fire born: self rez. It's always been useful in raids. I as a voidwalker main for all aspects of the game can't even be bothered at this point to count how many times a team would force me and other warlocks to change our sub class and play style just to utilize this one perk. And before you even fathom saying it, not once has any team thus far in KF hard has no one died in it's entirety. If that is the case; bravo. Even still, sunsinger arguably has quite the powerful line up for grenades when tasks begin to become a bit more arduous Next up is storm caller. AKA the crowd control class. Doesn't matter how you utilize it, anyway is great as long as you know when and how to use this subclass. Low to mid some times high tier enemies. This allows the team in a whole to produce more fluent DPS to an enemy rather than to stop or worry about the adds in the next part or sequence of said fight. Whilst many classes can also crowd control; storm caller hands down does it the best Then my favorite: voidwalkers. If there is anything I retained from this raid it is that long range supers are very useful. And in being a voidwalker, you must choose how to utilize the subclass. Will you go with vortex grenades (which if you didn't know can be planted on bosses for substantial continuous damage), with surge/life steal and pad the vicinity of the fight with numerous of problems for the enemies feeding them into contingencies where they will be damaged, and finishing large low level throngs of enemies. AKA the consumer Or, utilize axioms to attack discriminately against more detrimental enemies whilst taking out the little guys if they step near you. Then slap on soul rip (with a bad juju cause why not) to generate your super expeditiously. Then damage a few heavy hitters because nova bomb damage is a bit lack luster (seriously bungie, increase the damage for it. And not just for nova bomb, for all of them. They're supposed to be cataclysmic, not crappy). Then nova bomb to drop some orbs for fellows of the team to get them their super. AKA the siphon Or a combination of both Anyway, what I'm saying is that what I listed are all very powerful and useful ways that all the warlock subclasses can be utilized. And not just for the raid. But for much more. Not to seem rude, but prior to ttk, I recall hunters hating pve because they could do subsequently nothing unless they were in very very specific circumstances. And defenders have always been the pve mule when you think back on it. All I'm saying is, you shouldn't degrade a class simply because some of the new tricks from the other classes are a bit more mystifying. [/spoiler]