After looking at a lot of the TTK reveal gameplay in pvp
it's safe to say shotguns are taking a big nerf
maybe the current felwinter like shotguns will be decent in normal crucible
but for ToO and competitive playlists , I fear the new TTK shotguns at max level will be underpowered
the range looks pathetic
to the point you can hold their hands rather than kill them
I'm scared that the reaction to them being OP has made them utterly useless
which is exactly what happened with Autorifles
now this is coming from a shotgun whore
admittedly,
but I believe shotguns were only OP due to small map design and crazy movement mechanics like blink and slide
both made gap closing skill-less and too easy
they're my favourite weapon to use
in all FPS
I don't want to see them nerfed to oblivion
save the shotguns for us shit-blam!-s who don't know how to snipe for crap
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Good they had their time. It's time for something else.
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All the new nerfs, will just be complained about All the new weapons will be based on the same new set up Short range shotguns and hand cannons etc
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Shotguns are supposed to be for when people come to you. Not the other way around.
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Bullet control is needed, not shotgun control.
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1 ReplyOP has never used a sword breaker in crucible obviously. To compensate with lack of range: -use your shotgun as a [b][i][u]special weapon[/u][/i][/b]. Never heard that word before huh? -use your primary. And no I don't mean your shotgun. -get good. Short range shotguns can be a lot better for group fights.
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Um no. They seem fine lol. They reduced base range but you can probably increase that to typical range. We just won't have the ridiculous range we see now.
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Hopefully.
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1 ReplyThis is what u and a llllllooooooootttttt of other people get for running around an entire match with shotguns.
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Edited by BERSEKAEL: 8/30/2015 4:21:42 AMI would say more snipers than before. Edit. Hidden hand is a broken aim assist perk
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Because it takes no skill to just blink and shotgun. None at all. Even I occasionally use Shotguns time to time and I find it rediculous. Sniper Rifles have made me much better.
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Fusion rifles however... They're f u c k e d
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They stated only shot package and rangefinder were beings effec, I believe. As well as their PvE lethality, by a small amount.
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1 ReplySorry for the salty scrubs here I am trying to move to a sniper but will use my pc+1 on cauldron and anomaly. Some of the perks needed a tweak or two but the biggest problem was map design not shotguns themselves.
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It does suck, I hope you're wrong. I'm not a full time shotgun user, but on small maps I'll pull it out. I hope they just work around and make both guns viable options. I do have a feeling though that all of the felwinters everyone worked for this week and all the other weeks will be quite useless now. I think shotguns with high ROF will take over the ranks. If they get it right it'll be awesome, I'd just hate to see them shelved.
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1 ReplyYa its the fact that the biggest maps are only in one playlist now, handcannons as well, of course they will be a better choice in a small map. And they too are getting nerfed. Every map is pretty small
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Just take the crucible back to halo combat evolved mechanics as far as movement. No sprint, no slide, crouch to help stay off the motion tracker. Motion tracker was so much more fun. There, should fix things with shotguns right? Eh?
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It'll be nice to not get killed by a shotgun blast from two rooms away.
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4 RepliesEdited by necrotitan464: 8/29/2015 7:56:35 PM[b]In an FPS[/b] Shotguns are supposed to be that back up weapon if you are in close range Not a weapon that can be used through the whole map Fusion rifles will work in close range but shotguns will be better Snipers will work in medium range but fusion rifles will better Snipers are the only long range weapon
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2 RepliesThey're supposed to be high risk high reward weapons so they should only be able to kill in one shot at close range
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They're not getting Nerfed to oblivion, they just can't be the only CQ option.
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1 ReplyHonestly? All I use is shotguns in pvp and I hope they get nerfed to shit. It'll make crucible interesting again because people will actually use their primary
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Finaly
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Good, don't know what the scrubs are going to use
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I'm fine with it I use a shot gun but I always loved fusions in crucible also I'm glad autos are gonna be better cause I like them 2
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You mean you actually have to be in close range to use a shotgun? How terrible.