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#convinceme

Edited by dazarobbo: 7/16/2015 4:31:56 AM
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Convince me to accept capital punishment

Given that: 1) I don't see it as anything more than bloodthirsty retribution; an emotional appeal for someone to be killed to satisfy people's bloodlust rather than a rational decision; 2) [url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/study-88-criminologists-do-not-believe-death-penalty-effective-deterrent]it doesn't work to deter crime[/url]; 3) [url=http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/execute-or-not-question-cost/]it costs less to sentence a felon to life imprisonment[/url] than to execute them (due to legal fees, not the method of execution); and Edit: 4) [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-matches-in-nearly-all-criminal-trials-for-decades/2015/04/18/39c8d8c6-e515-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html]flawed evidence[/url]
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    • Holy shit, has daz been demoted? [spoiler]in case I'm wrong and daz bans me, I have not broken a single rule.[/spoiler]

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        ...aren't you missing your badge?

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      • Hitler.

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      • I can't I agree with you...

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      • Ur ghey. Git rekt

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      • pls accept

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      • OP is dumb

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      • Edited by DeadSoul103: 7/15/2015 6:14:34 PM
        Public hangings would be supported by I, for one; it's cheaper than maintainting a prisoner, two; public hangings would discourage criminal activity, three; everyone gets to lol at the person being hanged and it doesn't even cost money to watch!

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        • >doesn't work to deter crime How many people have you seen or heard of commiting crimes that warrant the death penalty? Oh... Wait...

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        • Agree with capital punishment or we will execute you. There you go. Are you convinced yet?

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        • I don't dare to do so. Disagreeing with a ninja is the last thing I want to do now(especially you daz), after being banned for no reason.

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        • Edited by Recon Number 54: 7/14/2015 4:33:36 PM
          The only certainty that I can think of is that it completely prevents recidivism. All of the other aspects are a matter of what a particular society considers just and reasonable.

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        • Batsmen is a great hero specifically because he DOESNT kill people! At the same time, how many lives would be saved if the Joker had been executed when he's first been captured... Not saying that ALL people will do that much harm, but in some special circumstances it's best to put a mad dog down. Capital punishment should stay as it is. Rarely used, but there when it's needed.

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        • The fundamental flaw in the argument against the death penalty is that those opposed to it only view in from a first-world perspective. Let's say we are talking a third-world, impoverished nation: A man, with numerous witnesses, commits a heinous act of murder, etc. The population can barely afford to eat and other basic necessities. They live in makeshift buildings and shacks if their even lucky enough for that. What little government they may even have has little to no tax money or funds to even support their people. Constructing and operating a prison to hold ultra-violent criminals is a near if not zero possibility. What do they do? Do they waste what little they have on a murderer who has forfeited his right to ever be part of society while possibly allowing innocents to die or suffer because that little bit of money has been quite frankly wasted? It's easy to talk shit in ivory towers. Till you truly have to see horror up close, you probably couldn't even imagine it. That's the problem with many idealoligists. They are too arrogant to see from any perspective bit their own.

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        • From a utilitarian standpoint, the death penalty arguably promotes the least amount of available suffering to the masses, considering the current quality of life in most prisons. That being said, I would only ever support the death penalty if we had a justice system without wrongful convictions, which will likely never happen.

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        • When I clicked on this I was under the presumption that you were talking about spanking kids in school

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        • Honestly some things are just to broken to fix and them being around other human is dangerous......what do you do with a rabid dog? You put it down end of story

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        • [quote]it cost less to sentence an inmate to life in prison[/quote] It costs between 20-50k a year per inmate(depending on location min/max security) I say we go back to Wild West public hangings for crimes as small as car theft(hang you in old west for stealing a horse). You [u]will[/u] see a drop in crime

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        • It does deter crime, see Middle-East.

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        • The punishment should fit the crime. You kill someone you die. You -blam!- someone you get -blam!- in -blam!- prison for x amount of years.

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          • Well, 1) It free up space in jail 2) It deters the amount of crime that happens as shown in a study conducted by a group( I'll link it wen I find it) that showed while capital punishment was in place, the amount of crimes were lower. However when capital punishment was put off the amount of crime raised substantially 3) It can give a victims family a sense of closure that the person that just murdered their son is no longer a presence that can be feared I'll add more when I think of some

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          • Because putting a bullet through the scrambled head of a psychotic murderer is more satisfying than feeding them and pampering them.

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          • JUST DO IT

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          • Because 'any final words?' is simply too good of a question to eliminate

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