If u want that elight u better suck it up and keep grinding

If i can outplay a thorn and a last word with a necrochasm then it does not need to be nerfed if you say that it needs to be nerfed then you dont need to play anything crucible related because youre garbage and need to stop being a sore loser it was a struggle trying to get the damn thing if anything autorifles should go back to normal nothing needs to be nerfed so middle fingers to the ppl crying for a nerf either get better guns or play a different game dont ruin the game for everyone else because youre garbage

I agree. It's nothing but Thorn in crucible. Try use the Bad Juju? I do well going up against Thorn with it.

What seriously gets on my nerves (apart from the blink shotgun, OHK from another continent shotgun, sliding shotgun, the OP elemental pulse rifle, OP grenades and melee in certain classe, and ridiculous armour of what should be the weaker classes) is people having a stupid number of rockets for their launcher. I get that if launcher is three tube, you may have three, but on two occasions today I witnessed someone using what I know to be a single tube launcher fire FOUR shots. On top of that, the second time they used it they hadn't actually collected the ammo. I was standing next to the nearest available pile and killing those who gathered it. There was no time for this player to actually acquire the ammo from the other pile. This isn't the first time I've seen people show up with ammunition they shouldn't have. I've killed people with heavy weapons before who then respawned in with their ammo intact. It applies to shotguns as well. If you die you lose some of your ammo and must replenish when available. I never once see them do this, and you get people running around the map for ages with an excessive amount of ammunition. More evidence to me that this is the most hacker-infiltrated MP going.

Hawkmoon can also be a 2 shot death. Pumpguns, Snipers and Rockets are 1 shot death. ... If it is not Thorn it is another weapon. We have already seen this with Suros and Vex...

Maybe you shouldn't get the burn with every shot and maybe it should be more like luck in the chamber or the last round perk.

The guns are fine the way they are i say buff the whole lot they nerfed and put everything back to how it was job done. At the end of the day people decide what gun they want if you dont like it then dont play it. I use thorn constantly does that make me a bad player no it doesnt i use thorn becuase i enjoy people like you who cone onto the forums to complain Would you rather that we just use PEA shooterd instead but then again cry babies wud want that nerfed as well.