Good competitive games have one quality developers strive for-- balance! When updates are added they are placed to try and create more balance. However, sometimes when you attempt to balance one aspect another becomes grossly unbalanced. It's a catch 22 but bungie always takes the challenge to rebalance the game! Hats off to you bungie!!! I would like to create this thread so those who agree with the idea that the thorn needs to be rebalanced can come together and have a voice. I know many people complain "nerf threads" are a nuisance but I would argue rebalancing threads are a necessity for destiny's long term survival! Now to talk about the thorn.... The biggest problem is the bleed damage working for 2-3 seconds keeping your shields down for too long. The thorn is basically a sniper designed to suppress your shields while the plethora of short range maps makes this a serious problem because you can be rushed too easily before shields recharge. It is way to over powered! To fix this problem just make the bleed damage effect activate at a random set-% instead of making it work 100% of the time or turn down the time you bleed when activated. Easy fix. Now let's discuss this idea and stay on track. *****This shouldn't be a thread to comment on the level of my characters since level truly only reflects your ability to mindlessly grind and waste countless hours of your life away. Level means [b]nothing[/b] in normal pvp and is not worth the grind for those with a career or a family they spend time with or any other hobby [b]BESIDES[/b] videogames! Seriously the level argument has no weight what so ever!! ****It is interesting how hateful a community can get when someone expresses a viewpoint that differs from theirs... Is the video game community just full of hateful man-children with low intellect levels? Seriously how many of you guys get off on HATING those with different viewpoints? Truly disappointing not to mention all the [b]argumentum[/b] [b]ad[/b] [b]hominem[/b] (yeah you might want to google that children) logical fallacies that run rampant.******