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Edited by CptCapitalism69:
6/8/2015 4:30:52 PM
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Above 2.0 kd players, does the thorn need a nerf?
You guys understand pvp. Does it need a nerf? Below 2.0 opinions will be discarded.
edit: please explain your opinion one way or the other. "Yes" is not an effective answer and will not sway any opinions.
Edit 2: I don't have a 2.0. That is why I'm asking for the opinions of my superiors. I'm asking better players with good reason. These guys understand traffic routes, map control, and are always landing headshots. They simply understand the game on a higher level than 98% of the player base and therefore I give their opinion more weight. I'm tired of seeing "NERF THORN" posts coming from some child with a 0.4. That kid can barely play the game, he knows nothing of it.
Edit 3: Here's my opinion, which should be discarded: if thorn gets nerfed tlw will be op. If tlw gets nerfed red death will be op. If red death gets nerfed someone might take a legendary primary into the crucible and exotics won't be exotics.
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After pondering long and hard, i think the last word needs to be fixed over thorn. Thorn is just annoying because of the DoT which requires a little more strategy and patience. TLW is just a cannon that has too much range.
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Check destiny tracker. Top 1% have Thorn or TLW equipped... do you think they will have a biased opinion?
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You're an idiot, K.D doesn't mean anything. An OBJ player will barely hold a 1.0 K.D but they're just as important to a game as a slayer. The thorn doesn't need a rebalance, the classes do. If you rebalance the classes to allow a max armour build to take one more shot to kill, it would be more valuable, currently you only benefit from a max armour build by surviving a trip mine, this would give you an option that leaves a well balanced weapon, as you can negate it's two shot ability, this is the only fair balance for the issue.
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No. What's the point? Another weapon will take it's place as OP. The new weapon will be hated and scrutinized; another nerf needed.
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I don't have it and I do agree that it needs a nerf but I really don't think a damage nerf. The range on this thing is just way too much on top of everything else it does well. That and the dot should bring you to 1 hp but not kill you. Just delaying regen is painful enough and it puts you in a very precarious position for an extended period. I think those two changes would allow it to be very strong but not in every situation which is the biggest problem. Now remove final round from snipers and buff AR damage 10 percent and we should be pretty balanced.
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2 RepliesDespite this being a subtle troll thread, I'll still throw in my opinion as someone who's been to the lighthouse once using thorn, and once without. The range is the only thing that needs nerfed. Out of all the hand cannons (not to mention the scout rifles) it has the longest range, and is literally used as a long range chip damage weapon. Damage and DoT is fine. I'd nerf the range is all.
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I really don't think kd matters to be honest, my hunters kd in control suck but I spent all last week above 2.0 in every match with groups of randoms, like I said they don't matter to be honest
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Slight nerf to impact or dot , but deffo the range wants a nerf
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Yes just as tlw and shotguns
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The range needs be nerfed drastically. HC's should be like using a shotgun, meaning being forced into playing within a range or suffer a huge damage dropoff. Not running out into the open and going head to head with a scout user at an insane range and winning.
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Well. The segregation is strong here. i feel all discriminated again. Great community we have if only higher peoples opinions are taken. It's not like the rest of us try hard and may think thorn isn't OP.
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3 RepliesWhy not just ask the top 20 players if it needs a nerf. I'm sure they all use it .
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3 RepliesEdited by delta092: 6/8/2015 4:54:59 PMLol you are under 2.0, You cant either write this post . The thorn must be nerfed with reducing the DoT from 7 to 3
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6 RepliesThe range is what needs to be nerfed. It's a handgun at the end of the day, not a marksmen rifle.
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Maybe change it so the DOT can't kill you, instead provide supplemental damage but force the player to get the kill shot. Not sure what they will do but I'm guessing range will we reduced and that's all I think they will do.
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1 ReplyI think they should change the exotic perk so the dot only activates on precision shots
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The dot just needs to debuff if and when the thorn wielder dies... That way if you loose the gun fight... You don't still get a free Kill even though your were obviously bested
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13 RepliesI have a 1.7 on my warlock, thorn doesn't need a nerf. If you can use it effectively, it will do well, just like any other weapon. NLB is a one shot. Nerf that. :)
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Edited by Badone: 6/8/2015 5:34:15 PMDoesn't need a nerf. I personally use the last word
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3 RepliesYes. Just remove send it perk and it would be balanced.
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It needs a rof and range reduction they also need to tweak the hitbox on the projectiles.
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No, it doesn't need a nerf. Some people just suck and can't hit a thing.
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No, the auto rifles need to be put back to normal though, all I ever see are hand cannons. I'm even using thorn now and I hate thorn.
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1 ReplyYes. The burns need to be decreased from 7s to 6s
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No. Thorn is fine the way it is. The problem isn't the balance of one weapon but the balance of the other weapons that cannot compete. We should be advocating a "soft nerf" of hand cannons by buffing auto rifles. Leave hand cannons and buff auto rifles back to where they were.
