Taken from weekly update:
"Further improve the balance of encounters by limiting high-damage weapons"
This statement [b][i]perhaps[/i][/b] refers to primary weapons. So what primary weapons are high damage(high dps) weapons?
Most primaries have a TTK(time to kill) of around .8-1.1 seconds. Several weapons are far out of this range. [b]Other primaries simply cannot compete. With a more Primary focused crucible, changes to these weapons are likely.[/b] These weapons are:
*Thorn - .36 seconds of engagement/~.9 seconds to kill
*TLW - .56 seconds to kill
*Hawkmoon - .4 to .7 seconds to kill
*Red Death - .67 seconds
Whether you disagree with nerfs or not, let me know what you think.
If you disagree with my [b]prediction[/b], let me know what you think will be nerfed.
Edit 1: For the most part, there has been a healthy discussion in the comments section. The crucible designers don't want a clear choice of what to use in PVP. With this next update, a more primary focused crucible will equate to a more exotic primary saturated crucible. Ice breaker and invective will be viable; however, that's it. Among the exotic primaries, if you're not using an exotic handcannon or a pulse rifle, such as red death, you're at a disadvantage. If handcannons aren't patched in 1.1.2, I believe it's inevitable that it will eventually happen.
Edit 2: Expect Auto rifles to be buffed back to pre 1.1.1 values.
Edit 3: I want to make it clear that I am also making this prediction from the amount of Crucible experience I have, coupled with developer trends. [i]In the event that Exotic handcannons are not nerfed[/i], expect these weapons to saturate the crucible and lessen weapon diversity.
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Thank god
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Those numbers are a little low and thorn does not kill faster than tlw. The last word is the the fastest at .6
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You should include Universal Remote in your list.
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Those ttk numbers are only accurate on the best circumstances. But if they get nerfed into the ground like the mythoclast I wouldn't be surprised. (I hope they don't I love my thorn)
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1 ReplyEventually they are going to replace all weapons with hugs. You can just love the vex and hive to death.
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Edited by Swiftlock: 4/12/2015 12:24:02 AMOh, great. More weapons will be gimped in PvE? Whoever decided that PvP nerfs will hurt weapons in PvE should be fired. The high-damaging weapons aren't even the real problem. It's the overwhelming amount of LOW damage weapons.
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As long as these Nerf's don't effect pve again
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6 RepliesThey need to quit messing with it before they drive more people away from the Crucible
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Hand cannons are fine just change the range perks or leave them only only weapons that take skill
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They just nerfed them STFU
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1 Replynerf everything and give us slingshoots and accessories....
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2 RepliesI think they are spending too much efforts on the minors and all the real issues are still unresolved.
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1 ReplyNo, this means shotguns, last round snipers, and fusion rifles. One shot kill.
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I care about no weapon changes until Suros once again has a place in this game.
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1 ReplyHigh damage weapons actually more than likely point to heavy weapons as they you know deal high damage
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9 RepliesIf thorn is no longer a 2 headshot kill no body will use it
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Fix the ads damage bonus with TLW and its cease fire issue, buff auto rifles by a base damage increase of 1%, either increase fusion rifle effective range OR reduce spread (NOT BOTH), increase high caliber round/single point sling/ snapshot/ surplus efficiency... I believe these changes would go a way to make crucible weapon selection more open ended, invite more average players, and make pro players more versatile. Open to thoughts and suggestions, cause I know I forgot something.
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This games pvp is so -blam!-ed up no matter what they do could fix it
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1 ReplyI'm not sure where you got your time to kill stats but they look a little shortened.
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YAY more nerfs! Bungie is doing the correct thing to get people to enjoy this game! [spoiler]Sarcastic post is sarcastic. [/spoiler]
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4 RepliesOr they could just buff autos
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Might as well just give every guardian a nerf ball have them toss that around, da F!
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2 RepliesGive me back the Suros. -blam!- your hand cannons!
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Here is a solution that they will never go for Increase our guardians health/defense
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Edited by Outlaw: 4/12/2015 12:33:21 AMI feel like they are referring to heavy and special weapons. Which I hate. I don't feel like PvE people should suffer because the crucible is a little off balance. You can hardly use auto rifles in PvE now since the last weapon nerf/update. It sucks we have to suffer. Not saying its a bad thing for the PvP aspect. I hope my confusing theory or idea made sense.
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1 ReplyEdited by literal_jim: 4/12/2015 12:26:11 AMWhy are we trying to make every weapon the exact same. Just have one weapon of each type then.