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4/5/2015 5:20:23 AM
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So how long until you nerf shotguns Bungie?

Seeing as how the weapon balance logic is "If too many people use it, needs a nerf" (This is why ARs were nerfed 2nd time even though they were already underperforming). Shotguns comprise about 90% of the special weapons of players now, so tell us when the nerf is incoming and how they will be nerfed please. A range cap of 5m would be nice.

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  • Special ammo nerfed. Universal Remotes and Invectives to be nerfed a few months from now.

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  • Considering felwinters lie is a sniper rifle I'd say snipers should be nerfed.

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  • They've been buffed once and nerfed twice.shall we just leave them?

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  • Not sure about 90%, but definitely a sizable majority. But no, no more weapon nerfs. Nerf special ammo and make it disappear on death.

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  • They won't. Shotguns have been the main gun since Halo CE, and have not changed since.

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    • I'd actually argue it's about 60/40... 60% shotguns, 40% snipers/fusions. There's way more people sniping now then there were before the latest weapon balance. Stop complaining about shotguns. They're useful for putting pressure on control points and disrupting the other team. You or your teammates should learn to do the same more effectively. ...And I usually equip a sniper as my secondary.

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      • Only scrubs ask for nerfs

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        • Edited by CrudeDude: 4/6/2015 10:11:08 PM
          The problem is that bungie tries to appease people. When it was auto rifles killing you in crucible, everyone complained and they nerfed it, and no one used shotguns so they wanted to make them sexy so people would use them, now everyone bitches about that because shotguns are killing them. I hope you get your wish and all the guns -blam!-ing suck ass and you have no fun at all playing.

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        • They never buffed shotguns in PvP. They are the same as before, with less ammo, because they nerfed the special ammo in PvP. It doesn't need a nerf. If you don't like that most people use them... then use one yourself, or stop playing PvP and it won't bother you anymore.

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          • I just don't get it... yes, shotgun runners are annoying. But they will only find another way to get quick kills and exploit that as well. It will never be "fair".

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          • They have been nerfed like 3 times already. You should have seen my FWC The Crash with Rangefinder and Shot Package, That was really a -blam!-ing sniper, it was ridiculous.

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          • I never had to worry about shotguns :p i was always capping -blam!-ers with my trusty scout rifles..... Until they started feeling like they werent doing it anymore -_- Again, bungie has no idea of what their doing.

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          • Shotguns have been nerfed. I actually have been sniping more and shotgunning less these last two months. I hope they don't nerf anything we don't need constant miniscule adjustments.

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          • Yea shotguns need a second nerf and auto rifles need a buff

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            • Never!!!!!

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            • Bump

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            • If people hate shotguns, how about they just put a scout rifle, sniper, and whatever heavy they want and sit in the back? It's so bloody simple.

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            • What's there to nerf? I always get killed by [b]Felwinter's Lie[/b] from a respectable range.

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            • Bungie did implement a nerf. All you have to do is: Back up. Instead of running directly at someone with a shotty, just back up.

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              • Edited by eikonoklastes: 4/6/2015 11:05:03 AM
                While that Felwinter's Lie does sting, I'm not in favour of having the shotguns damages or ranges nerfed. I do think that they need ammo nerfs though. In that regard, I really do think that Special Ammo needs to live up to its name better. There's [i][b]nothing[/b][/i] special about it. There's literally an unlimited amount of special ammo to be had per game. You never run out and you only very rarely find yourself falling short of it. How is that "special"? Shotguns need to be a special, 1 hit kill secondary fall back plan for those occasions where you suddenly find yourself in a tight spot. It should not be a limitless-ammo primary weapon to be constantly wielded as you charge the enemy fearlessly while their primary weapons shoots peas at your blinking body. In PVP, limit the magazine size to 2-3 and reserve capacity to 5-6 bullets and decrease reload speed. Have special ammo spawn in more locations but fewer times per match. Increase weapon swap speed for shotguns so that they can be equipped and used extremely quickly when you're caught with your pants down. If not, at the very least add a small cooldown to blink when you have a shotgun equipped. Either that or introduce a small delay before you can shoot a shotgun after you've just blinked. It wouldn't hurt to also reduce agility when you equip a shotgun. If you're going to have a 1-hit kill weapon at your disposal, you shouldn't also be allowed to effortlessly jump all over the place. I didn't really care for shotguns earlier, but lately they've become a plague in PVP, and Destiny has turned into an endless no-fun shotgun fest. I hope Bungie manages to restore some balance there.

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              • Destiny has good intentions on nerfing weapons that are used the most. They want players to try new things instead of using the same gun the rest of their life. The latest nerf made pulse rifles better and made shotguns in pve more viable. I bet if you compare the stats since then more pulse rifles are being used and more shotguns are being used in pve.

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                • I get pissed off when all I die by is delimiters lie I think they just need to make it were shotguns can't have hammer forged and shot package at the same time. Just like no other hand cannons can have fatebringers perks but that's just my opinion

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                  • Fun fact! They only buffed it in PvE soooo they just believe in their self and can wreck you up scrub.

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                    • Honestly what they need to do is just make a Playlist excluding secondary weapons. Then the players who use secondary weapons excessively can all play each other and everyone else can enjoy crucible in another playlist.

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                      • I'm gonna let you in on a little secret [spoiler]shotguns are not that hard to get and you can use them to[/spoiler] [spoiler]k?[/spoiler] [spoiler]k.[/spoiler]

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                        • Yeah when u put it like that

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