Make the game free and that takes away everyone's right to complain. No surprise, the game wasn't free. Therefore, we as customers have the right to complain whether you agree with it or not. I don't have to be a coder, all i need to do is invest in their product. Gaming is no different then any other product sold, and the arrogance to suggest otherwise is a waste of time and energy.

All this stupid people trying so hard to be clever. They think they know everything... Ignore them dude.. They are just not in that career line, they think doing this is simple. Money is not an issue here. Please think in every direction not just one direction mofo. Crybaby asking this and that-.-"

So if I spend 500 million dollars to design a maze and a few thousand people are asking me to clean up a pile of poop inside it's ok if I get lost trying to find the poop? Your logic is flawed, coder or not. [spoiler]shouldn't get lost in your own maze...[/spoiler]

Uhhhh adding vault space is easy.... Read as far as vault space Tears collected.

Thank you. As a software developer I can sympathize with how delicate some of the algorithms can be

Ya I remember my first week in computer science in middle school. Met most of Bungie there. Last I checked, they're still there.

It's funny how people who have never slung code I'm their life think nits an easy fix, yet fail to realize while the fix itself is technically easy, the fallout can be disatrous. Even with code as simple as Visual Basic, a simple "if then" statement added in can throw off hundreds of lines of code. Do we really want heavy ammo fixed at the cost of some horrible occurence? Hey I got to keep my heavy ammo, too bad my inventory is empty. My raid boots vanished, or lord knows what else.

I think Unity gave us an insight to how hard coding is, even the Pro's have trouble. :)

Having a history in software development of 20 years (more QA than deveolopment but still with several years of development ) is enough to know. The only huge difference is how the graphics load into the video card. I know how hard it is to change a system which is already working just fine. I know how instability can happen. I suspect that the reason why vault space is so hard is that each item has a lot of attributes and takes up a lot of relative table space. Item count it what kills video games. But I don't need video game coding experience to know that.

Honestly you are comparing two different things. People that have a degree in game design aren't as well versed in the programming world as those that get a degree in computer science. A game design degree offers more of a wide range of concepts such as what makes something a game, how to set up a story for a game, and other concepts that have nothing to do with computer programming, where as computer science degree focuses more on programming, math/efficiency, and theory.

*Makes 500 million dollars in the first week of launch* *continually making money everyday from DLC purchases ($20. $40 for the season pass)* Let's say ten people buy destiny, and purchase the season pass (which I feel like most of us did) that's $900 off of ten people. Out of the supposed MILLIONS that play Destiny. NOT counting those who bought special editions as well. So you're going to sit there with that continuous flow of that high amount of money, they can't afford a dev team that actually knows what they're doing ? It takes them almost 6 months to actual give us some real info on this bug ? ONE bug. (Still no words on the glitches in CE AND VoG) This is what Activision does. I believe like many others do, they have the biggest role in this situation. This is what they do. They probably pay the dev team the lowest amount they can for their experience and turn the game into a bunch of DLC's to be spanned out for 10 years. This is a game they know they could milk money out of and they took advantage of the opportunity. Which was a pretty damn good business decision for them. I'll give them that. But it's at the cost of video gamers. Video games were meant to relax people, not add all this unneeded stress and turmoil between people. Some of you will defend anything. It blows my mind how much slack you'll give a gaming company, but absolutely roast the living fućk out of fellow players over the dumbest shit. You scream out entitlement when someone wants something to be better. It kills me to see how much real world oppression even affects those in a gaming community. You use it against other players when they want something different than you, you go off on people you've never met in your life. Stop acting so careless and reckless over video games. I'm not necessarily trying to bash you or anyone else, but stop with the oppressive bullshit state of mind. Look at it this way. You're an investor. You buy a lot of stock in a company. Let's says that company had huge hype while it was a start up company. Well turns out they're pushing out bad products and not communicating with investors as to what they're doing with the products to try and make them better. They just keep telling them they're working out it. Every week. Being extremely vague and bland. That is exactly what's happening right now. Except we're not necessarily investing a whole lot.

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This is what I've been thinking of saying, but haven't got around to it. As someone that does program/code for a living (some of which is bug squashing existing code), the ignorance on these forums with this given issue is beyond comprehension. The weekly update was extremely candid and open about what the issue is, and what has made it so hard to fix. It seems the biggest complainers are the ones that don't understand and don't care to understand, because, well, ignorance truly is bliss. I just can't wait until they announce how the fix is being applied (it seems it's not just going to be a fix, there will be a "gotcha" to it), because then the community will go bananas at the change.

Lold , as if they test -blam!- all or give a shit.

We put men on the moon nearly 50 years ago bro, they can do this. It's all about will power.

Graduate computer science student here. All I see is that they didn't make their code extendable from the get go. I couldn't tell how long it would take to fix because they obviously wouldn't let us look at it. What I think happened is that they did not suspect having to make changes after the fact and they must have hard coded in a lot of things. The problem now is that they don't want to spend a lot of money now to fix trivial things all over the place. Kinda like how adobe keeps putting band aids on flash when in really needs to recode the whole thing.

I actually know two programmers and they have said that adding something like vault space would not be nearly that difficult or time consuming, especially for a team (assuming the coding was done right the first time). I understand that coding is complicated, but there are certain things that actually should have been done before the game was released, it was obvious that this game would be about collecting that rare look (raid gear and exotics), and yet simple math would show that there is not even enough vault space to hold every exotic weapon, along with all the weapons from the first two raids. Seems odd that something like a large vault isnt something they would have realized people would want from the beginning, many gamers like collecting unique and rare stuff just for thw hell of it, look at any rpg like skyrim, or look at borderlands, they even knew that people would want a vault for their cool guns.