Look, I get it. Icebreaker, along with Gjallarhorn is one of the most hyped weapons in the game. And rightly so. The thing is a beast. And I get that you're super stoked you finally got it from Xûr. It's happy days. However, much as you want to play with your new and shiny toy, for an arc nightfall, the thing is not really that much of a beast. My 331 arc LDR is melting enemies in 1 and 2 shots, while I hear my teammates pew-pewing away with their ineffectual Icebreakers. Heck, even a 300 arc sniper would be better off. Save it for the solar (or no elemental damage) nightfall. For those who do not have any arc snipers, who are using the Icebreakers, buy the damn arc LDR from Roni, the Vanguard Quartermaster. What on earth are you waiting for? Edit: The LDR with Field Scout holds 24 rounds in reserve! That's massive. Your DPS on Phogoth with this thing will outstrip Icebreaker by an order of magnitude. It's not even a contest. If you're using an Icebreaker on Phogoth, you're just spending more time than necessary on that battle. Note: fixed wrong info about 24 rounds in the magazine. That was a brain fart. It's obviously not 24 rounds in the magazine; it's 24 rounds reserve and 6 in the mag. Edit 2: Special Ammo is dirt cheap. Stop being a miser, and stock up on some Special Ammo Syntheses. Waiting for Icebreaker to regen your special ammo, then switching between snipers... ugh! Who the hell has time for all this nonsense? Just pop that Ammo Synth! Edit 3: Whoa! That escalated quickly. What's this about "let me play how I want"? You want to play your own little personal "challenge mode", go ahead and get your own little team together and do that to your heart's content. Everyone else is trying to beast. Nobody wants ineffectual scrubs on their team. Save that for your "Oh see how different I am, I'm so rebel." YouTube bait clips. Edit 3 Part 2: Also about the cooldown on the Ammo synth - The LDR has 24 rounds. With 1 Ammo synth that's 48 non-critical hits in about 1 minute (the rate of fire and stability on the LDR is brilliant). Each non-critical (on Phogoth) is ~3600. Each critical is ~8500! Even with no crits, if you land every shot, that's 172,800 damage in less than 2 minutes. A team of 3 LDRs will possibly take him down in about 3-4 minutes. Meanwhile Icebreaker is gasping along at ~1200 per non critical (I can't find the actual number for this can someone clarify?), with a piss-poor ~15 shots per minute. And you guys are actually defending this position? "BAH! GURK DO WHAT GURK DO! BAH! GURK NO DO NUMBERS! BAHHHH!!" Gurk's fury dissipates and as he calms down, he hunches over in a defeated slump and whimpers softly, "What is...'number'? Gurk sad because Gurk illiterate and weak." Don't be sad Gurk. Here's a cookie. And an Icebreaker. Go be a star.