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1/17/2015 1:11:22 PM
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Hard Mode Prediction

Hey guys with the Hard Mode difficulty coming out soon for Crota's End, I was wondering what other people thought would be different. Bungie calls it Deathrace 2015 and says we need to take better care of ourselves and our teammates. Also that there would be less opportunities to heal ourselves. My ideas Chalice for the entire raid without health regen Darkness to x20 during the abyss Oversoul every time you take Crota's shield down Post your ideas!

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  • I think no challice oe no recovery for diferent parts of the raid since deej sayd it will be harder to recover health

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      Weapons will be disabled, crota will no longer have a sword you must beat crota using "your mum" jokes whilst crota craps in his hand and flings it at you

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    • 1st Stage - there are no lamps, once bridge is up phogoth with 2 ogres sitting on his shoulders will spawn on the other side. They must be defeated to progress 2nd Stage - the bridge gap distance has been doubled, there are 6 totems on each side that must constantly be manned while the sword bearer crosses Shrieker hallway - same hallway, 2 shriekers upped to 5, heavy weapons disabled for this part 3rd stage - added 12 exploders to death singers room, death singer now has 3 shields (arc, void and solar). Must be defeated within 15secs Crota - each time network glitch is attempted, another Crota will spawn (max 3 Crotas). Crota can also fly and shoot dragon breath rounds from his anus

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      • My predictions... [u]Darkness[/u] (no change in amount of adds that come at your team) - cursed thrall, Knights, and ogres are all hallowed. - bridge forming speed is dependent upon the amount of people on the plate. (Plate currently just needs to be activated) or there will be a plate and Totem system to form the bridge. [u]Bridge[/u] - regular Knights and wizards spawn as additional enemies. - teammate death causes oversoul to spawn (it is technically visible from this area) - Knights with boomers spawn on pillars that sit on each side of the bridge. [u]Deathsingers[/u] - teammate death causes oversoul to spawn [u]Crota[/u] - tower Knights and Knights that jump to bridge are hallowed. - oversoul spawns randomly (or on a timer) and upon teammate death. - chalice is no longer available for use. [u]General[/u] - Chalice spawns at drop zone and is the only way to regen health. Team must carry through the entire raid.

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        • -No health regen entire raid -3/6 must cross first bridge for stage completion -Knight Majors will have shields -Room with Deathsinger will have 4 Wizards and all knights with shields -A 2 shriekers will spawn in room where players go to hide from ogres/stay to fight Crota

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          I predict atheon will show up sporting a hulk hogan vest and take over from crota when he gets to 10% tag team style

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          • Totems at crota. There are blue platforms on left and right just like the bridge

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            • After every sections Eris screams, "OMNIGUL!!!!" But Omnigul never shows up.

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              • Guardian holding the sword to take DOT Challis has a limited number of uses? No revives (obviously) Weight of darkness x20 Ogres spawn after each Guardian crosses the bridge? Sword bearers have shields?

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              • "Sword bearer burn" making it so that anyone who uses the sword to damage crota cannot pick up the sword again another time to do damage to crota again. This would make it so the raid team can't solely rely on one person to be their designated "sword guy" to pull them through the crota encounter. This would make it so that multiple players in your fireteam will need to be competent with the sword and can't just rely on a ringer. Changes to the vault of glass (Atheon) shows that Bungie is more than willing to make their raids an experience where all players have to be able to adapt to different situations, and my prediction is that this might actually happen. Also a whole bunch of arc shields on Knights.

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                • I believe instead of an oversoul crota is going to summon justin biebers face...insta death plus my eyes will bleed in real life

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                • Oversoul spawning randomly wont be a problem since 5 ppl wont be dealing damage to crota anyway we can all just shoot oversoul from safe spot:/ i don't think they will change much at all. Just no revives and level 33 enemies

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                • My prediction for Crota, every time someone grabs a sword they get a debuff that makes it so that they cannot grab another sword for the rest of the encounter. This will force teams to use 4-5 of their team members to use the sword at some point in the encounter.

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                  • Edited by Itachi: 1/21/2015 10:25:09 AM
                    Crota becomes immune to damage during the oversoul.....so him summoning it when you pop his shield is unlikely..id guess he will summon it when he moves. Vault of glass didnt really change alot in hard mode encounters except for atheons detain. So i doubt there will be radical changes

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                    • instead of crota, its Randal the Vandal. We're fuked.

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                    • There will be a gatekeeper in hard mode during the crota battle. He will spawn every time you kill a swordbearer and you will have to kill him before you go slapping crota around with the sword. Gatekeeper will spawn underneath the hive boomer sniper towers.

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                    • -All thralls in lamp phase are knights. -Double gatekeepers per swordbearer. -Ir Yut invited Omnigul for her recital -1 Phogoth instead of 2 ogres. -Oversoul is a "boomer"

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                    • Edited by Elyke69: 1/21/2015 10:49:28 AM
                      Maybe you'll have to fight that crota guy from that sword mission called "the sword of crota"

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                    • Swords will be replaced by no land beyonds.

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                      • Edited by Raider TCK: 1/21/2015 11:10:26 AM
                        Weight of darkness drains your health. Presence of Crota is active throughout the entire raid so the chalice is always needed. Ir yut starts singing the second you drop down from the shrieker hallway. Oversoul can be summoned by Crota at will. Not just as a punishment for death. Oversoul also active at bridge. No revives (duh). I would also be interested if they put arc shields on knights (epic mod). However I think that would be a bit too harsh.

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                        • Crota will summon Aetheon every time he goes down.

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                          • I can pretty much guarantee we'll see presence of Crota through the whole raid along with the no revives we got in VoG hard. For the crota fight I also think it's possible either a) player carrying sword cannot pick up chalice, or b) the player holding the chalice cannot do damage and is designated the chalice b!tch, or c) both.

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                          • Weight of darkness in crota fight and you gotta use the 4 lamps around to cool off

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                          • Im hoping they add more witches and those green circles that spew green fire. They used those in the new missions but left then out in the raid.

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                            • Darkness x20 is confirmed as several people (myself included) have had it happen during the thrall maze. Snails seem like an Olympic runner at that point.

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                            • If over soul triggered when his shield went down he would stand right back up to cast the oversoul

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