So, let me provide a disclaimer before going on a short rant: Destiny is the first FPS I've played since Counter-Strike (yes, I played that in college, in the early 2000's), and the first sort-of MMO I've ever played in my life. I decided to get Destiny mainly for the FPS aspect, not so much the role-playing, leveling-up one. I love this game, though I'm eager for the expansions, and hopefully more beyond that, as the years go by.
I just ran across some comments where a player said that it was another player's fault that he didn't have Fatebringer (you know, the Hard Raid gun that still has to be given by RNGesus). This really angered me, but had me thinking about the bigger picture. I've seen a lot of trolling on this forum with players trash-talking others, because they haven't done this, haven't done that, have trouble solo'ing Nightfalls, Heroic strikes, whatever. They haven't maxed out their guns...that's even a point to criticize someone on, apparently.
Let me give a few statistics from my profile (obviously you can look this up): The big one, a 0.83 K/D in the Crucible. GUESS WHAT? I don't care! You know why? I have fun playing it. I like playing with a team, and at least getting "important" kills. As for Strikes, I die doing Tiger Strikes sometimes, you know why? I like to run and gun like an idiot, because it's a video game that allows for that. Of course, if it were real life, I wouldn't do that. Nobody would, you'd try to find cover. But there will be people to revive me. And I will do the same for them.
I'm 33, I didn't play video games (regularly) for at least 10 or so years, after college, aside from having a PSP to pass the time. I'm an accountant, my girlfriend is getting her PhD in child psychology. We eat healthy, however you want to define that. Basically what I'm trying to get across to some of you is that we actually have lives outside of video games. Video games are fantasy. They're not real. I don't spend hours on end practicing getting the perfect headshot every single time I fire. I DO like getting assists in the Crucible, because I want my team to win. I try to get double-digit assists, actually. Weird, I know. It's like trying to be the John Stockton or Chris Paul of Destiny.
Basically, for the trolls, understand that I and others don't play as often as you. We don't CARE about it as much as you, because there are more pressing issues in the real word. I SUCK at Destiny...and I'm ok with that. I have fun doing it. Do you really want to look back, when you're (hopefully) in your 60's, with a destroyed liver and kidneys from chugging Monster to stay up playing these games, and struggle to find some justification for it? To the GREAT players, who also are nice people who understand some players don't put as much time into it, but love to play with them all the same, a HUGE thank you.
Out.
Edit: Much appreciation for the positive responses, as well as the thought-provoking ones.
2nd Edit: Uh oh...looks like the Hive has struggled to get out of bed, finally...
3rd Edit: It said "Over and out."...but I changed it to just "Out" for the sticklers!!! >:(
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Edited by Raskolnikov32: 11/19/2014 12:27:31 PMYour comment "Video games are fantasy. They're not real." I get what your saying here but they are real in the sense that they exist. My PS4 is real (at least to my perception, though this a whole other philosophical debate, that i neither have the will or time to have here). So they might not be as important to you, but it does actually exist, in the real world.
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Although that is true, if you were playing an organised game of football and every time you passed to this one player, he just smashed the ball out the park every time it came to him, and he gave the excuse that hes just having fun, and doesn't mind being shi7, then you'd probably ask him to GTFO right?
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1 ReplyEdited by LONE RONIN2012: 11/19/2014 11:29:50 AMI agree that you can play how you want, and have fun. If though you are in a Tiger Strike with me, PS3, please run, gun, and die near me. Especially on the Cabal mission with the big rocket shooting @$$. I hate trying to position myself to get the best protected shots off, only to have to disengage. Not a problem, unless I have to jump across that huge linear danger area in the center, taking fire as I go.
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well said. bravo
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You have become legend. Put these damn kids in their place.
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These people don't care, you have to understand they have slightly broken minds. It's great to have a voice, and i can tell you won't be phased by people like that so keep it up, but it is futile to try and reason with them. You just have to treat them like the "wannabe intelligent and popular attention seekers" that they are.
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Edited by Ghoul: 11/19/2014 10:16:53 AMYou are just like me! Super weirdly so. But, man, it's a fun game, right? I, too, am tired of people shitting on this masterpiece that these great people took so much time to create. Of course, these naysayers do still want to talk (i.e. bitch) all day long about Destiny and so obviously it means something to them as well.
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Fantastic post Ian. *tips hat* Consequently after reading this i thought to myself surely not a single person could 'troll' this post.... Sure enough i see 'scrub' and b**ch etc. Unbelievable ladies and gents. A very thought provoking post and yet you still manage to show this community up. Congratulations. For those of us that simarily have real lives and families/children and are mature enough to recognise the sentiment here i believe i can say Kudos. Thanks again OP.
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A nice thoughtful pos, thanks for the faith in humanity boost.
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this game isn´t an mmo....
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1 ReplyEdited by ClinTrojan: 11/19/2014 7:45:10 AMI think the real underlying problem here is a crappy matchmaking system. I'm not talking about Destiny specifically, because this is a real wide spread issue. If you're .83 KD then you should be matched with people who are also in the lower percentile KD (no offense). Also matchmaking should focus on much more than just KD ratios. I don't really care about the communities opinion on what I'm about to say, but I think Halo 5 is going the right direction with this. I am hopeful from what I have seen anyways, but it is yet to be seen how the matchmaking will work out. A LOT of people have been complain that Halo 5 seems to be giving medals for everything, and I think more games should go this route as well. There is much more to being good at the game than kills/deaths. If you get a medal for almost everything then that makes it really really easy for developers to create a more sophisticated matchmaking algorithm. Even if you have a negative opinion on the whole everyone gets a trophy thing, then make most of them invisible. If you're truly better than someone then you should in theory still get more medals than the other person.
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Welcome to the internet gaming forums. Seriously, though...there are a ton of great people on here (and elsewhere) who post things that are useful and worthy of reading. However, you also have people who are on here just to embrace their anonymity while being jerks to others. Comes with the territory. Those people are better off being ignored.
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I'm with you on most points. But dose your other half play as well? My wife dose and there is nothing better. Anyway. This community doesn't encourage at all. Well maybe in one or two threads but that's it. Makes me sad for the future of gaming.
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I loled when u said pressing issues in the real world haaha
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1 ReplyOnline douchinesses is not just a problem in gaming, it's a problem everywhere. It's what you get when you mix insecurity with anonymity. The competitive nature of gaming does seem to bring out the worst in some people, though. People brag about how good they are, as if anyone cares, or they put people down for not finding something as easy as they did. Anyone with any sense of self-worth feels no need to do that. And it isn't just the serious gamers; the newbs can be just as bad. Hey newbs: We get that you don't get to play much. It's obvious from how you play. Say you work a lot, and leave it at that. Nobody cares how much money you make. It's all nothing but a bunch of d@ck-waving, when the rest of us could give a sh@t about your exotic weapon OR your exotic salary. That's why I think the universal response to douchey behavior should simply be... "I'm sorry you have a small penis." Because that's basically what it boils down to. Plus, if the only response any douchey comment ever got was that one, I'm guessing you'd start seeing less of them.
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I like to be good at the games i play, i have a job and girl that always have priority over playing games ofc.. but i can understand that when u do lets say a raid and someone keeps screwing it up over and over it is pretty annoying In crucible i dont really care tho
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1 Reply"I have a 2.5KD while running objective" Well that'll go down well at your next Job interview!
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Yes, yes, a hundred times, yes. It sounds like you play like I do - to have fun, not to compensate :)
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4 RepliesIs this the real life?
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3 RepliesJust so you know some peoples lives are video games. Some people post on YouTube, other play professionally and it's what they do for a living. These "oh so pressing matters in real life" for you, are not the same for other people. Just because it's your hobby doesn't mean it doesn't matter to other people. Some people could care less if they or their wives or girlfriends have college educations. It doesn't matter at all how other people love their life Cuz guess what, nobody gets out alive anyway so live how you want to live your life and make sure you're happy about your experiences
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Competitive markets have become like this yes. Back years ago, in your CS days, the Internet was still fairly small, and there really wasn't "competitive" games. Just games people played competitively and for fun. You also have to realize that the Internet was for privileged people with money. And gaming online even more so. Take this just from an observers point of view, but with all your claims to rag on what gaming has to become, you are all too eager to brag about your own personal life achievements and prove yourself as a superior person. And that's do better than those who brag about k/d and other such things. If you don't care and am having fun with the game, then why are you here? Let alone bragging about your successes of your life? Do opinions of strangers matter? Does it bother you to the point that you have to vent here and let everyone how how much better you are than them? Is this what people have become? I reject that notion. And thankfully I know people that act better than this. At the end, we are all people. There isn't anyone who is better than anyone else. Just people who would like to think otherwise. That said, congrats on your achievements. But know you never had to prove anything, and I'm not sure why any of this bothers you if you are playing for fun and have a great life behind you. Maybe culture shock, but you seem to forget how you (and your peers) acted back in your college days. But I can only speculate. Only you really know. I suggest finding good people to play with. It helps a lot. The environment you put yourself in is decided by you, and having great people to play with just makes everything even more fun. Best to you op!
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What's your Gamer tag?
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Amen Brother.....There with you. LAst played counter strike in early 2000's. This is the first game after that worth playing. Am 32 years old.
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Edited by Tekn0z: 11/19/2014 7:14:22 AMThis is my first console fps. I come from counter strike and unreal tournament background with a mouse and keyboard. I'm loving destiny so far sans a few quirks. For my first console fps with a controller I think I'm actually doing pretty well. I still need a lot of practice. For quite a while I'm getting terribly decimated in the crucible simply because my aim was terrible and I was a bit lost without bright skins. Now I'm doing better and I'm having a lot of fun. I still have trouble with super twitch aiming but improving so I'm happy.
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killa_j_83(in my 30's) add me i just started playing i too dont live on the game but i play i like to have friends
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15 RepliesMy 4 friends and I play when we can as well. We are all between 32-34. We sometimes need a 6th for the raid if you ever want to play! We don't care much for stats either and just like to have fun! Take care man!