[u]The Fantasy:[/u] Bungie introduced crossplay and sold us on the idea that it would be great for the health of the game. The player matchmaking pool not only increased in size, but also brought in a much wider range of skill levels. They also put a big emphasis on the repeated message of, "Now you can finally play with all of your friends, regardless of what system they play on." With the exception of people being worried about unfair advantages that PC players have over console players (ie: cheating, m&k accuracy, movement speed, faster frame rates and wider fov) most players were genuinely excited about the change. [u]The Reality:[/u] Because we STILL do not have dedicated servers, crossplay has major latency issues. There are numerous people on the Bungie forums, Reddit, Youtube, etc. complaining about the lag they are experiencing with players on opposing systems. As an Xbox player, I don't see much issue with pc players, however the lag with Playstation players is -blam!-. I have also seen countless Playstation players complaining about Xbox players being laggy. PC players just complain about everyone on console because you know..."PC master race" <insert eye roll here> After playing Iron Banner all week, it's gotten to the point where I can now predict with nearly 100% accuracy what console someone is on before even looking at the roster screen, just based on if they are teleporting, taking a full clip before dying, registering as dead 10 seconds after I actually killed them, or killing me through walls. Considering that most matches I get put into have anywhere from 4-6 Playstation players on the enemy team, I am constantly dying in gun fights that I absolutely should be winning. Headshots that don't register or register late, rubber banding players that are directly in front of me 1 second, I put 3-4 pulse rifle bursts into them then suddenly they are 10 meters behind me and 2 tapping me with a hand cannon, or dying to a fusion rifle blast through walls is rage inducing. I finally got so fed up with it all that I started searching online for a way to turn off crossplay. I successfully did so and then rebooted my xbox. As someone who has D2 accounts on both PSN and Xbox Live, I have always found Xbox to be a much more reliable network. Surely, I'll have a better experience now that I'll only be playing with other people on XBOX live, right? WRONG! Everything that I found online said that turning off crossplay would only prevent you from playing trials. Apparently Iron Banner is also affected because I sat in orbit for 10 minutes and wasn't matched with a single player. (Not even xbox players) I thought, maybe this is just a fluke bug since I changed the settings so I rebooted my xbox, reloaded Destiny and tried to que into IB again. Same result...not a single player was found. Now I'm really pissed. Re-enabled crossplay, rebooted, and went into IB. I was almost immediately put into a match in progress where my team was being blown out 98-30. First enemy I encountered, I landed 3 bursts to the head and 2 to the body with a God roll Jian-7, just to watch him not only run away, but then insta-kill me with Landfall through a wall and from easily 20 meters away. (and before you suggest that he had 10 resilience, NO...he had 4) As someone who has played this franchise for 7 years and has primarily been a PVP player, I can say with certainty that the pvp experience has been neglected and ruined for [u]at least[/u] the past 2 years. Players have continually voiced their displeasure and it very much feels as though the devs are either deaf, or not concerned. The player pool died off tremendously because of it and instead of Bungie actually having "a renewed focus on pvp" as they promised, they implemented crossplay as a way of giving the illusion that there was a bigger player pool. Yet, we're still playing with the same shotty netcode & player hosting that has always been problematic in this game. Is there even a "team" working on pvp anymore? It sure as hell doesn't feel like it, and hasn't for quite some time now. This franchise used to have the most rewarding pvp experience around, and it feels like it has just been left to die and rot for the past few years.