Why should it even be close shooting across the map in a shootout between a hand canon and a scout rifle? This shouldn't even be a conversation.
Bungie, especially with crossplay coming, it is time to seriously nerf all hand cannons to a respectable range. They are supposed to be short ranged weapons, not mini scout rifles.
If not then crucible will just be battle of the hand cannons.
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14 RepliesEdited by Meow Fairy: 2/18/2021 5:37:37 AMThey are supposed to be mid range weapons. Not short range tough. And only 120 rpms are unfair. The others HC are fine
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We all know bungie is obsessed with hand cannons. They will get nerfed but eventually one type of HC or another will always find its way to the top of the meta.
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Lol don’t look at the reward for flawless this weekend...lol
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1 ReplyThe range on 120s could be toned down, however it's not the weapons. It's because the maps are all designed for 4v4 not 6s.
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36 RepliesI’m just tired of the franchise being “HAND CANNONS: THE VIDEO GAME”
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Remember in d1 taken king when hand cannons were nerfed into the ground minus a few outliers that were good, that is if you had range finder and rifled barrel? Pepper Ridge Farm remembers! Range finder and rifled barrel did add range but they also reduced bloom which meant less missed shots within range.
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Look at the 120's this season. They have more range than the versions already causing problems. The bottom dollar is very range centered and the new Trials 120 will be shooting from one map to the next map over...
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Dumbest buff so far. They literally gave hand cannons rifle range. Small maps don’t make a difference. You can still see it on the bigger ones. Terrible meta.
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4 RepliesAmen Scout rifles have been forgotten in pvp. 120 hand cannons are disgusting and are nearly as bad as stasis in pvp
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Hand cannons are medium range weapons, scout rifles are medium-long range so they should compete. How about shotguns which are short range, short-medium for slug, yet they seem to hit for 1-shot kills at stupid ranges.
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Lol they added more this season
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7 RepliesHandcannons are not short range weapons in destiny, they are considered medium range weapons.
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9 Replies140s and 180s don’t need a range nerf. The only hand cannons that need a nerf are 120s and arguable Ace and Crimson(I think they’re fine but some think they have too much range).
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17 RepliesLooking at your weapon stats, it’s clear that you rarely use hand cannons, either because you are bad with them and haven’t put in the time to master them or you just don’t use them. Whatever the case, just because you don’t like using something doesn’t mean you can call for nerfs to it in order to make yourself feel better. [spoiler]also I’m not about to let a dude who’s #1 pvp weapon is a fusion rifle try and tell others what’s balanced or not 😉[/spoiler]
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4 RepliesBut not before we get an exotic hand cannon that fires smaller hand cannons!
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1 ReplyGet rid of stasis in pvp, do it!
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5 Replies140s are in a good place. Nerf the range of 120s and high impact pulses and buff rapid fire frames range. That will give a little breathing room for scout rifles as well.
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3 RepliesI just want that toxic bs crimson to be addressed
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Just delete crucible.
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I mean i win my duels against 120s with my trustee?
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You know, now that everyone is at the back of the map with Messenger, I don’t mind too much lol.
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Hand cannons have always been and always will be in the meta. Ever since Thorn in D1.
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It’s pretty much just the 120s, 140s are in a really good spot right now but are just outshined by 120s
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17 Replies120s Shotguns Stasis Needs to be adjusted.
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Honestly, the problem is that the maps cater to 120s range. There are rarely lanes that exceed a 120’s range. The is is simply because maps are small. Shotguns aren’t overpowered either (with exception of quickdraw on aggressive frames), but the maps make it so easy for them to use. If there were 60-70m lanes, scouts would be incredibly viable there.
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[quote]Why should it even be close shooting across the map in a shootout between a hand canon and a scout rifle? This shouldn't even be a conversation. Bungie, especially with crossplay coming, it is time to seriously nerf all hand cannons to a respectable range. They are supposed to be short ranged weapons, not mini scout rifles. If not then crucible will just be battle of the hand cannons.[/quote] Ahhhhh! The memories off getting kill by “The Steady Hand” the best sniper HC ever