For once a post I can agree with from you

Yeah I feel you. Knowing that all the stuff I have is going to be irrelevant in a few months just drains my energy to play this game. I mean it is already pretty much bounty simulator 2020: space edition, but if the grind im doing isn’t worth it why should I play it? I’m taking a break from D2 and will see how things will be when the aunsetting hits... And the TWAB was horrible.

The thing is if they had implemented sun setting post Forsaken like TTK it wouldn't have been as bad, irritating but not as bad. Unfortunately they waited over two year after random rolls were reintroduced and people spent that time building up their gear. Bungie said this would solve power creep in which it won't, a tweet from Andrew Hopps said "You know how Recluse shits on everything in PvE? Weapon sunsetting means we can add more weapons that shit on everything and they just eventually fall behind in power. New weapons that shit on everything can be added without constant power creep." so hypothetically they add a Recluse level weapon for that year, that means the meta load out for pve/pvp will revolve around said weapons for that entire year and defeats their argument towards "power creep". Me personally, I like seasonal sandbox changes to keep things fresh instead ever level cap and sun setting is not only lazy but a easy way out. Power creep progress at a slow pace, it doesn't happen over night and as long as they stop introducing more damage dealing perks and control what they buff there will be no problem. All Bungie need to do is show certain archetypes some love and to come up with different perks like demolitionist, lead from gold, overflow, or more area of effect perks uniquely like meganeura etc. They're only assuming we want more damage dealing perks and a lower time to kill and believe me if Bungie can create perks in which I stated, a defense of lack of innovation is invalid. Hell they could introduce akimbo (duel wielding) smg's and sidearms with the caveat being you can't aim down sight and shared ammo reserves to balance them, same can be said with swords. I hate to bring this up but how do you think Warframe a free to play game, was said to fail just like Destiny was able to survive all this time and stay relevant with little to no controversy and backlash. It's because the devs of Warframe care about its community and doesn't half-ass their content or make excuses, example: they had a loot box system but took it out because they didn't what their player base slot machine gambling and that's what builds trust and loyalty with their brand.

Yeah i literally only try to level up exotics...any legendaries i get i just leave it as is..

This has always been my argument against weapon retirement - the psychological effect ( both conscience and sub-conscience ) it will have in the way players pursue loot in the future, as well as upgrading the things they’ll potentially acquire. No one wants to feel as if all their time and effort is going into a black hole. Once loot becomes temporary, I fear that it that for a lot of players, the daily Destiny grind is going to feel a bit futile, and pointless.

What chase bro? I have played the mindbender and savathung like many, many times and i just get to see others getting the shotgun or the braytech launcher, not that it matters now tho, but WHAT LOOT CHASE?? Not all Strikes in D2 have specific loot drop and those who does don't drop -blam!- all or you get the ones nobody cares for like neuroma or wardens 😑

I don't see sunsetting weapons as a big deal. I like trying out new weapons- even the not ready for prime time ones. However - sunsetting Armor with the high cost of upgrading same will be very painful for me, as a solo player. I used to have fun playing around with different builds fully Masterworked - haven't been able to for a long long time. Yep been solo since PS4 accounts were hacked by friend requests awhile ago. Physical friends I do have have left Destiny some time ago.

I lose the incentive to chase loot once I have all the loot I want (mostly just the meta weapons, whatever those may be at the time) I cannot wait for upsetting, because then I can chase different loot, different meta weapons. Sure the archetypes will still be the same archetypes, and the perk pools will remain more or less the same, its still something to do.

I’ve lost the will to play, my little brother constantly asks me to help him with quests but I just can’t get myself to want to start it up, there’s nothing to chase anymore, none of the loot means anything it’s just the feeling of “oh I have this gun, but it doesn’t matter cause it’s useless against most things now “

Reminds me when most people quit playing D1 when they pulled the guns will not transfer junk.

Yes, the only thing not being sunsetted is eververse. Another thing they are doing to entice you to spend money at the cash shop. Which is what has ruined this game entirely at this point. 3 years of players complaining about it, and they just change things around to make it more shifty in hopes we don't notice. We see you bungie. This is why we have stopped playing your game.

I stopped working on all weapon quests. Honestly. Haven’t advanced any of them one bit. And I’m not going to.

I get on for the eververse stuff now that my pass is completed. Yakuza 0 has been getting all of my attention since it dropped on Game Pass.

100% yes. I started losing interest in Season Of Fundying. I’ll log in each week to see that the ornaments I want are still not available in Eververse and then log out. I actually got to the final step of Failwinter’s Lie quest and threw up in my mouth a little bit when I seen it wasn’t even working for anyone. 🙃

Deffo considering never masterworking armour. It's far too painful to then lose it for nothing

No. Play every day. If you don't like it, then leave. No one will miss you!!

Mixed feelings on this one. Remember the Randy's Throwing Knife, EP shotgun, Blast Furnace, Bygones, ANY bow for PVE, ANY fusion rifle for PVE, ANY rocket launcher for PVE, etc...etc...etc... Point is- all of those weapons were monsters in their day, and now, we barely use them. Why? Because Bunghole has already 'sunsetted' these weapons by forcing us to use artifact perks for specific weapon classes in order to play endgame/season content. Good luck completing that Grand Master nightfall with a pulse, a shotgun, and a rocket launcher. lol But do I miss those weapons? Not really. We have all grinded for the best weapons and loadouts each season- and moved on from them for the next season. This is how most loot games work, by the way. And there isn't a single piece of armor that I 'need' to have in order to complete a raid, master nightmare hunt, dungeon, nightfall, or any other PVE activity. SO I honestly could care less about ditching old armor. (I do understand that PvP players face a completely different perspective for amor stats) But what I am most concerned about is that Bungie has a history of taking our things away from us, only to 'give' them back later on. This chit is OLD!! I do not want to have to grind for a god rolled Bygones V2.0 when I already have one! And I'm tired of the damn re-skins! lol

If they were just sunsetting weapons I’d be fine with it, but armor is too much. It takes too long to make your stats exactly what you want.

pretty much even the reset today isn't exciting anymore, yes my power level may climb a bit (1-2) but knowing that my hard earned weapons are going bye bye from season 12 is a real kick in the teeth. unless bungie can confirm god rolls at a lot more frequent rate then no one will play, tbh the power infusion cap has effectively shut out 80% of the player base from doing rewarding content. because of it many will leave, possible me too :(