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Edited by Spawn:
11/27/2018 10:49:02 PM
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WHY NERF EP SHOTGUN?!?
So going fast through my head I can count how badly this will affect my playstile. No more killing knights with 1 tether hunter in the shattered throne, can't kill blockers as fast as usual and so on...
Tbh they should reverse this, no one was complaing, stop nerfing our good weapons. If you want us to use other weapons or other shotguns there are literally no substitutes . So yeah, ... gd job bungie :)
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Everyone complaining about the nerf... I have a question for you. Have you [b][u]actually[/u][/b] used it post nerf? Cos the only real difference is that you have to punch, hold the trigger for 1 second (possibly less), punch, hold the trigger for 1 second (possibly less), rinse and repeat. Did the Last Wish raid 3 times last night, no problem. Essentially it's still the strongest energy weapon in the game, and Bungo's "nerf" pretty much did nothing. So quit whinging and just go use the damn gun already.
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4 RepliesFor the same reasons they nerfed Gjallarhorn. It literally broke the game.
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they didn't nerf ep they nerfed trench barrel to balance it as a random role perk for year 2
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Was it overused? Sure. Was the dps insane? Sure. Was it the must have weapon to melt various bosses and elite mobs? Sure. Was it OP in crucible? No...it was just another shotty. People had fun with the EP shotty and because it was effective it made it highly desirable and most of us grinded EP for hours just to lay our hands on it (way to artificially inflate your player rate Bungie....you're welcome). Despite all of its advantages....and the fact it freed up an exotic slot....Bungie nerfed it despite it being fun and effective to use. In my opinion the wrong option.
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People were complaining, a vocal minority complained for weeks regarding the shotgun. Now its been nerfed, the vocal minority has moved onto lunas howl, and the new group has come to complain about the nerf. Welcome to bungies feedback forums.
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cause the trench barrel perk will be on other shotty's, watch the vidoc thingy they show one with it
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It's Gjallarhorn 2.0 and it shows just how short on intelligence the Bungie staff really is. They knew what the gun did all along, they just didn't decide to nerf it until the majority of the people had it and it made their data show it was overused. It was ALWAYS overused by those who had it, they just don't know how to look past the usage reports. They let the streamers and no-lifers have their fun with the top guns and then nerf them when average joe is showing up at the fight with the gun too. That's how they've always handled it, they didn't bother to nerf Gjallarhorn until it had over 50% ownership across the recurring players.
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A lot of people here will tell you it's because it was overused. A lot of people here will tell you it overshadowed other weapons and made it so you could only run this shotgun. While both of those things are true, once again Bungie takes the easy way out and we let them do it. Instead of buffing enemies and bringing other weapons closer to par, it's much easier to just nerf one gun. And we all know Bungie loves to take the easy way out. And a lot of people here are the reason they can and always will. Bungie dictates how we play this game so you either fall in line or find something different to play. I think a lot of people have taken the latter.
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Edited by CannyJack: 11/28/2018 4:09:13 PMI've seen no substantial difference "in the field" [i]except [/i]specifically against boss-level enemies. Blockers, orange- and yellow-bar nonbosses...no issues. Erases them like they were never there. Note: obviously there are differences in the damage numbers. But given the weapon's raw damage output, those differences are irrelevant except for bosses.
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1 ReplyAfter having used it post change in the raid I can say the change makes no noticeable difference to the weapons lethality. That being said I’ll answer your question of why nerf it. The reasons I believe are 1. they looked at the stats and saw an overwhelming majority of players using solely the ep shotgun in all pve content and then looked at the damage numbers and saw that it was out DPSing any power weapon that isn’t an exotic heavy and it was competing with those weapons and out DPSing them in some cases. 2. They wanted to put the perk on other shotguns, maybe even add it to the random pool of perks. With those two reasons in mind I think they developed a sensible adjustment to the perk that still allows players to do massive amounts of damage but adds the condition that they are smart about how they use the weapon and reapply the perk. I personally never would have asked for a change but after seeing the backlash I thought critically about the reasons and came to the conclusions explained above. With those in mind I don’t fault bungie for making the change and honestly I’m looking forward to getting the perk on other shotguns and maybe changing up my load-out a little bit.
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bcos it was straight up busted /thread
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Because it was way too strong for a special weapon..
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Welcome to destiny.... bi-monthly nerfs galore .... wait till you get that god roll you been grinding months for and they turn it to pooh .... funny thing is you never get used to it ....
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So all of the things you mentioned are clearly op maybe that's why it's been nerfed...
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/249875118/0/0
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Ah but the Mida got a buff. Not that anyone will use it.
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1 ReplyEdited by ShaxxCousin: 11/28/2018 1:55:45 AMRIP IKELOS_SG_v101. The time we spent grinding for it was a waste now! Maybe this means they will update the Escalation weapons and there will be a v102? One can only hope
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They are letting other weapons drop with trench barrel perk. Like box breathing was. Had to be balanced
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Bc gambit crybabies
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Yeh completely FUBAR decision.
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We saw the same thing happened back in D1 with the Black Hammer. Honestly not surprised.
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2 RepliesFirst heard for me...they are for sure nerfing it? I don't have it. Is it because of something in crucible? If so...they need to nerf dust rock before they nerf that lol
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Dude, EP shotty was way too good. It could output more DPS than anything in the game as a special weapon. The nerf lets it stay powerful against majors but not against bosses, which it shouldn’t be able to melt anyway.
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Because it was a legendary special weapon that was able to outclass exotic heavies, let alone the weapons that had to compete for the same slot. Bringing other special weapons up to the same level would have made heavies obsolete unless they buffed all the heavies to be better than the newly buffed specials. Basically, one special weapon was clearly dominant, and bringing it down would be a lot easier than having to rework the rest of the weapons and bosses to deal with the increased overall damage, which would basically end up with the same outcome of bringing the Ikelos SG into line.
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Good, now one weapon isn’t the only usable one.
