Hello boys and girls, before we get all that annual pass ViDoc speculation stuff today, I wanted to get this out of my system. This will be a little different, since we’re talking about music. Yep. We’ll stay in the realm of lore of course, don’t worry. This will also be unusual for me, since it’s [b]very spin-foil-hat-ish[/b], so be warned. Very heavy speculation, don’t expect solid evidence this time.
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! Disclaimer !
I’m not professional when it comes to music, so brace for some super unprofessional descriptions.
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When you ask people about their favorite new strike is, most of them will say “Warden of Nothing”.
In the very end of that strike, when you go down and fight the mad servitor, a song starts playing.
That song is “Shell of What Was”.
But, players that took the challenge that is the “Last Wish” raid should know that this is not the only time “Shell of What Was” can be heard. Two slightly different versions of the song play in the Shuro Chi fight and when carrying Riven’s heart respectively.
If you need some auditory references, I know a certain guy who has a video with all three versions:
https://youtu.be/FTmDq--Xans
Maybe listen to the song(s) to refresh your memory so that we can get to the juicy stuff.
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Now, to my point:
I think we [i]might[/i] be able to make some lore observations here.
That’s because something isn’t right.
The song plays in two different settings:
1. A PoE strike
2. The Raid
Other than the song, these two don’t have much in common. Well, let’s look at the things they do:
- Panic
- Fighting enemies (duh)
Again, not a lot, and not very important.
Let’s step back and listen a little closer...
If you played Gambit before (who hasn’t), you might notice something familiar. The Gamit leitmotif is [i]in[/i] all three versions. Ok, that’s interesting.
It makes sense for the strike, it’s lead by the Drifter. But what does Gambit have to do with the raid? There’s one thing that came to my mind immediately: Taken. A whole lotta Taken.
What we now have is this string of connections:
Warden of Nothing -> Drifter -> Gambit -> Taken -> Last Wish
Now we get into over-analyzing-territory:
The fact that “Shell of What Was”, which is Gambit music by extension, plays during the raid, [i]might[/i] suggest a bigger role for the Drifter in the future.
In another post I theorized that the Drifter might be looking to make darkness a wieldable power, without negative repercussions, to fight the real darkness (I’ll link that post in the end). Maybe this gives a little credit to that. Let me explain:
Music relating to the darkness has a pretty electric and synthy sound to it. Just listen to the small theme that plays when the Traveler‘s pulse hits the pyramid ships. Gambit music has the same sound to it. Even without the music, we can easily link Gambit to the darkness.
Now we have Gambit music playing in the raid, totally disconnected from the actual gamemode. In the raid, we’re fighting the Taken, minions of the darkness. If Gambit is referenced in the raid, that [b][i]might[/i][/b] suggest a bigger influence or importance to the whole thing.
If Gambit were just a little new gamemode, this wouldn’t happen. Gambit and it’s importance will evolve come “Joker’s Wild”. There is more yet to come.
What I’m trying to say is this: If the Drifter’s music is playing during events like the raid, he might be more important than we think. I think this all links back to the darkness and how we choose to fight it.
[b][i]HOWEVER[/i][/b]
This might all be looking waaaay to deep into it. There is a simpler explanation:
It’s a panic theme. It’s just used when stuff gets intense. Nothing more.
But, the inclusion of the Gambit leitmotif is still very interesting and doesn’t need to happen, if it’s [i]just[/i] a panic theme. Why Gambit...?
Take all of this as food for thought.
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I hope you all enjoyed this very different...thing. Again, tell me what you think.
Also, what’s you’re favorite Destiny song? Mine is definitely Riven’s theme, it’s superb.
Bye, fellas!
(Link to the Drifter post: https://www.bungie.net/de/Forums/Post/249337950?sort=0&page=0)
[Expect an ol’ timezone-adjustment-bump]
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2 RepliesMy favorite Destiny theme is Regicide; no contest. No other Raid has even come close to legitimate intimidation than King's Fall. I vividly remember seeing a massive Oryx arise from the depths while Regicide blasted for the first time. A moment to never forget.
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1 ReplyLove the effort put into this analysis and explaination. Fingers crossed :)
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1 ReplyI feel you're right. Don't feel like you're pulling these ideas from nowhere. Bungie has always been great with their allusions and subtleties so I really feel you're onto something with this. I love learning new things on Destiny, even if it's speculation. Yours seems like very well-founded, researched speculation.
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2 RepliesEdited by A Tigerstorm: 11/27/2018 6:40:00 PMExcellent work! Plus, Once upon a time in the Reef is a reference to "Once upon a time in the West", a western film. Another one I would like to mention is "A God on Mars". Once it reaches the part of 2:27 you can hear after the huge trumpet noises a little violin stretch that sounds like "Will of thousands!" every time it is played. Good luck getting that outta your head.
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2 Replies<Maybe it's a slow shift into a new style of Taken themes. They are the closest thing to the Darkness that we have encountered, after all. Plus, Gambit relates back to the Taken and Darkness as stated. Music's fantastic either way!>
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1 ReplyThat explains D2....a shell of what D1 was
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3 RepliesI have the Forsaken soundtrack but this piece is not included. Where can I get it?
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1 ReplyI would guess that the cues Gambit and Shell of What Was were originally composed to be one track rather than two separated tracks.
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1 ReplyIf you haven’t played Last Wish with the Drifter’s voiceover yet please do so! Failsafe’s VO is just fun cuz Failsafe, but the Drifter’s VO? It pretty much confirms all of this. Love this piece of music! Every time I run the heart I start singing along until I have to count down. My raid mates really love me 😆
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1 ReplyYou're right, a very well known Destiny leaker AnonTheNine confirmed that we will use darkness subclasses in D3, so The Drifter will eventually complete his experiments with Darkness.
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1 Reply"It's used to be a friend, once. A confidante. Now it's a shell. Avoid falling into schemes of the Nine. Like the curse on my people, their games never end."
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3 Replies"Shell of what was" Destiny 2 compared to Destiny immediately came to mind.
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What emotion does the Warmind music put forth? It sounds like traffic.
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1 ReplyYep, I noticed that immediately from the end cutscene of vanilla d2 matched the gambit piece. THIS is what I’m worried about though...is “The Darkness” just some final version of Taken? I REALLY REALLY hope not. I want them to be something completely different. Taken are fine and all but I think most people are ready for something really new in D3.
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1 ReplyThe title 'Shell Of What Was' could be in reference to a lot of things, but to me it's about the Taken both from a literal and metaphorical point of view. The instrumentation changes are more to establish the setting than anything else, but the combination of settings in which it is used tells me that the title is actually very exact. Riven, the Warden Servitor, and even our Guardian are shells of what they once were. Riven was taken, the Servitor is just a malfunctioning reflection of the past, and we are slowly but surely being corrupted within Gambit as we find ourselves harnessing the darkness. That being said... the composer doesn't always end up deciding exactly where the music goes in a game. The piece could have been written with a different intent and changed for the final release. Or it could just be an action cue as you said.