Good read. Glad to hear the experience was such a positive one. Hope to hear a podcast discussion on it later!

Mtashed's facial expressions in his video told me enough. September is not going to put D2 where D1 was at. Mtashed even said it. Words of advice. Just wait for the third or fourth game.

Hahahahaha what a sucker

I give you a credit for disclosing your intended topics of conversation and the detailed resume of your time at the Summit. From what I have seen or heard other participants say you are more open about the logistics than anyone else. It was interesting to get an insight into how the Summit actually worked. I understand that all of you are under NDAs and are unable to discuss details of what Bungie is working on and therein lies my big problem with all of this. I, and everyone who bought D2, are the paying customers. We are the ones who got a product which, based on previous experience, fell short in both content and expectations. (Obviously some people like D2 so everything I say is a generalisation). The community, have been posting feedback, of all types, for years with little acknowledgement or response from Bungie. Now if, as was the stated purpose of this Summit, to get attendees to approve or disavow what Bungie have been working on that’s fine. I get that Bungie have taken action on community feedback to ostensibly improve the game and picked XYZ person to comment on their work. I also get that not everyone can ever possibly be happy with everything that Bungie come up with. Personally I saw you mention the name ME Cheong and groaned with despair at what further convoluted Guided Games systems Bungie may have come up with. ( Sorry my hobbyhorse). For Bungie to get it’s paying customers back on side it needs not only to give a few selected people it’s reasons for doing what it did to D 2 it needs to tell us all. It needs to tell us what they are doing to turn things around and not shroud their work in secrecy. ‘Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, it will all be great, take my word for it’ from You Tubers and Streamers whose opinions I do not value will not work. Without thousands of ‘me’ buying future DLCs the Destiny franchise will fail. It is the ‘me’ that Bungie needs to convince to trust them. Unless Bungie open up to us all people will continue to think that this is a marketing excercise to build hype. I understand that you can’t comment on specifics and would not ask you to. I also understand that you have no say in how Bungie behaves towards its community. I leave my comments here in the vain hope the someone from Bungie may think upon them

Know what would of been really great? If you made this a video talking about your thoughts rather then making me go through posts. ;)

The second day was spent once more in our discussion groups and saw us playing unreleased content and giving more opinions on it. We had two main sessions. One of the groups with the content team and one with the sandbox team, then we switched again. During that break for lunch, I got to talk to Peter Sarrett again along with Justin Truman, both of whom were as gracious and open as they could be on my thoughts and questions. Then Coz came and found me and asked me if I wanted to meet M.E. Chung. She was one of the other people I was really hoping to get to talk to about the social features within the game, my experiences with Guided Games and my hopes and ideas of what could be going forward. Coz led me over and she was in a conversation, so I was able to actually talk to Pete Parsons again for a few minutes and just give him my thoughts on the event so far. Then I got to spend about 20 minutes talking to M.E. and Steve D, Bungie’s social design lead. I got to give them my thoughts on what I feel has worked with GG and what hasn’t and we discussed games that have had similar systems and why those worked as well as ideas they have for improving functions within D2’s social systems. I walked away from the conversation feeling like it is something they very much are committed to improving. [url=https://amp.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/8ebdit/lore_summit_meeting_with_christopher_barrett_and/?__twitter_impression=true]During this time Myelingames, Aeroknight and Mercules were able to sit down with Chris Barrett to really give feedback and thoughts on the story and lore.[/url] I was disappointed I missed out on that discussion as it was another I really wanted to participate in, but the story and lore feedback was in very good hands with that group and I ended up participating in another sandbox discussion going deeper into things we’d talked about the day before. We ended the day with about 2 hours of everyone back I one big group to ask about anything that we felt hadn’t been discussed enough or hadn’t been brought up but needed to be. I would again say that literally every major suggestion or complaint was heard throughout the summit and I think the duration was perfect as the final hour was really about more QoL changes as all the heavy topics were over. DeeJ then proceeded to end the day perfectly when it was suggested there be a discord chat to keep the conversation going by saying that he felt that would be too much like a player council and that wasn’t what this was about and that they didn’t want to create a situation where it feels one group of the player base gets to head up feedback. The devs were really happy with what they felt had been accomplished and they’d gotten out of our feedback and loved how it turned out. Hopefully this is something they do again in the future and hopefully next time it is all new faces and voices in the room to get that experience and to get to be heard from their perspectives. The event ended and everyone made their ways back home. Some were leaving for their flights over the course of the final hours of the Summit and some like myself stayed in town a little longer for various reasons. I was able to meet up with one of my friends and fireteam members,Tim of Tacoma as well as a couple of friends from the studio for dinner and then headed home Saturday afternoon. It was an incredible experience and one I am extremely grateful to have been a part of. It was also really incredible to get to know some of this community like Aeroknight, Cammycakes, Lulusoccer, Myelingames, Pope, Hovey, Swainstache along with so many more that I got to talk to about Destiny, the event and other things. They were again all really cool and very much gave all the information they could to try to make this game and universe the best it can be.

Good stuff. Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like the future is hopefully going to right some wrongs.

‘Twas a good read. I appreciate you taking the time to make this post

Why was summit needed? Bungie had the beginnings of an epic Destiny at the end of D1 based on user feedback for three years. Then Bungie just scrapped all the years of user feedback and started from scratch with a failed end result. Just give us D1 sand box with new strikes and adventures and cool bad guys and awesome new gear. Seems so obvious.

I don't know, that NDA has me [i] extremely[/i] skeptical about anything. This is also on top of the fact that Bungie seems to be pushing a "wait until September" stance with a lot of stuff. I'm honestly going to push a "wait and see" approach because of the NDA.

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