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Edited by Lost Sols: 4/23/2018 7:05:59 PM
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My experience at the Destiny Community Summit

It's taken me a little longer to post this than I'd hoped, but it obviously was a crazy week for me and I did not get back home until late yesterday evening and was pretty jet lagged today. There is a lot of speculation and discussion about the Destiny Community Summit and I know my fellow attendees have been posting their thoughts, so here are my impressions of the event. To begin I want to say that I understand how incredibly fortunate I was to be invited to be a part of this. I know all the speculations going in about motivations by who was on the list and even within the group of attendees there was a wide range of opinions on what the event would be. I believed the first and foremost reason for the summit and most important goal would be to try to rebuild and repair the relationship between the community and developers, beyond that we had a lot of discussions before hand of what the community would like addressed/discussed. To that end I wrote up a summary of those discussions to take with me as things I hoped we could cover. As this will go well beyond the forum word limit, I’m going to link the sections below. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/244629481?sort=0&page=0&path=1]Thoughts and hopes going in[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/244629507?sort=0&page=0&path=1]Day 1 experience[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/244629542?sort=0&page=0&path=1]Day 2 experience[/url] My fellow attendees have written and talked about what their experiences were and I know there is still skepticism in the community as to motivations and intent on all sides, but this event was literally everything I hoped it might be and then somehow proceeded to exceed that exponentially. I’m as hopeful for the future of a Bungie game as I’ve ever been. Thank you. Edit: I want to add something else to this as I've been seeing and reading takes on the summit and I want as honest a narrative as possible. I don't agree with any notion that this is the first time Bungie has listened and that their listening to us at the summit is going to potentially "save the game". I feel that discounts things we were shown already being developed as well as not only easily identifiable player impact throughout D1, but everything that we've seen in developer comments, TWaBs, updates and roadmaps since launch. I know we did have very direct impact on some things and were very helpful in thoughts and opinions on a lot of things going forward at the summit, but I don't want to take anything away from the impact of your feedback and the things we already saw them doing and/or know are coming/in development that are directly from them listening to the community at large. What I saw was a company that has heard your voices and feedback on the game and this summit was another step in that process and a chance for more intimate face-to-face discussions on those thoughts and ideas. Thank you again. [spoiler]The measure of this moment is the measure of the hope it can bring and if it's gonna make a difference, the difference will be easy to see. -Swell[/spoiler]
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  • Nobody who attended the summit speaks for me I am not a sheep.

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    • I am physically sick that you got invited along with all other fan boys to this event....you DO NOT represent the views of the game from the wider community..we have not forgotten about the abuse you given us when we highlight the problems with this game...I wish I had the power to have had 100 random non tuber community members on here to the event and give a up front blunt feedback..I tell you that I would have given more than both barrels I'm sure I would not have been alone. But that is why we were not asked as bungie can't handle the truth..so do us a favour and don't insult us again when we have every right to angry and disappointed. Rant over take care all angry destiny guardians.

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      • Does anyone remember when this guy exploded on the forums in 2014 calling people names and threatening violence. Then you flip to being a good boy who calls everyone stupid dumbasses in 2017. Why would they even invite you? You have the Modus Operandi of a bipolar murderer. Community leader.... Wow bungie is disconnected.

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        • Edited by Orpheus49: 4/28/2018 4:21:50 PM
          No one said they aren't good hosts to the few they invite. We only said they don't know game development or consumer friendly practices

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        • 236 posts now and not one up vote for you. That sucks. Lol

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        • Who the -blam!- is this guy?

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          • If they asked you to go, they really are out of touch. You are easily one of the least respected or liked people to ever post here.

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            • Well isn't this comment section a cesspool of toxic hate.

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              • Edited by TheShadow-cali: 4/25/2018 12:38:00 AM
                This first quote is in your post. [quote]I don't agree with any notion that this is the first time Bungie has listened[/quote] This next quote is you making a reply to a thread on your post. [quote]We're here because they didn't listen and interact well before[/quote] Can you do everyone a favor and make up you mind because you can't have both. People are getting a little annoyed that you have been doing this for the last 2 years. Pick one and stick with it please. Edit:The main reason I posted this is because you are sending mix messages to the new gamers.

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                • Edited by gallp13: 4/24/2018 2:49:48 AM
                  Been thinking about posts, vids etc from those who attended the summitt. All report ostensibly say the same thing; 1. There was a cross section of attendees; 2. All Community issues were tabled; 3. Bungie people accepted responsibility for the poor aspects of D2; 4. Bungie people listened; 5. Bungie showed the attendees elements of May DLC and Sep Comet changes; 6. DLC2 is a little better than DLC1; 7. Sept comet changes D2 to at least the extent TTK changed D1 and perhaps a little more so; 8. Participants signed NDAs and can't tell the Community very much. Hmmm, all good but here's my expectations; 1. Bungie has an obligation to post a full list of Community concerns - to clearly demonstrate they heard and understand the issues; 2. Bungie has an obligation to post the list of concerns it accepts and will address. I am fine if that address none or the lot. Once they tell me what they plan to fix I will decide whether I care to remain a customer; 3. Bungie has and obligation to advise which year they plan to fix the issue. Bungie has the expertise to hit a year. Sols - did you request the above three items of Bungie and if so what was their response? I am extremely interested in your reply.

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                  • NDA'S are important for a few reasons. First, anything shown may change slightly upon release. It may not be substantial, but enough change and people will question it. Second, Bungie themselves will be revealing their new content and changes for everyone. Some of the changes take time. Beyond that, Q and A doesn't occur in a vacuum. What is important, and anyone and everyone knows this, feedback and criticism works the best when it's face to face. Especially when everyone is ready to hear both sides or all sides. There is going to be things people won't like and things people will. What is important is the game is fun, and the makers are satisfied with their creation. Otherwise why are we even here. Glad you got a chance to go Sols.

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                    • how has this trash not been moved to feedback yet? good job ninjas...

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                    • Sorry, I can’t hear you with Bungie shoved that far down your throat 😂

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                    • Bungie Shill.

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                      • Edited by oznig: 4/23/2018 2:38:17 PM
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                        dont take this personally man but i find it insulting you were asked to even attend, all you done for the past 6 months is blame and insult the community here for the problems with destiny. i could think of nobody more out of step with the community right now and thus less able to represent them .. what a joke

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                        • Edited by A KOOL POP TART: 4/23/2018 11:18:26 PM
                          I thought I blocked your ass? Time to fix that I guess

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                        • All I can say OP The choo choo has arrived. Looks like you boarded it! When are you guys who went going to realise this summit does not speak for me and Im sure others. A summit is NOT what was needed. JUST FIX D2.... Proper loot and NOT cosmetic shite as a reward, and make the dam game fun....... It's not rocket science....... Tell me, what are these amazing ideas you have come up with that has not already been said a thousand times on this forum and just about any other Destiny forum, whats new? I'm waiting...........

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                          • Take this post down already It already has more dislikes than pregnant mother tweeting her alcohol consumption on Twitter.

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                            • I don't know what the point of all of this is when all you've ever been is a giant kiss ass to bungie. So most people aren't going to read or care about what you've said either way.

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                              • Sending you as a representative only shows how little Bungie is really listening...they would rather listen to a feel-good echo chamber of fanboys and call it a summit, than take on those of us that have been most critical of the game...

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                                • imo, from what Ive heard from all the vocal youtubers that went to this summit, Bungie were told exactly what we've been saying forever on this very forum and reddit...and they were surprised.... Which can only mean that they either dont care what we say, get the wrong impression on whats important from Cozmo and team, dont play their own game, or are completely clueless. I cant believe that developers of D2 were surprised when the summit attendees told them why we dont like D2.

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                                  • This whole summary is laid out like a creepy romance novel. 🤔... [spoiler][b]Day 3[/b]: Luke’s apartment was amazing, the little bit I saw of it as he carried me down the hallway. He turned on his bedroom light before dimming the glare just a bit. “There...I want to see you.” The gravel in his voice made me shiver. “I want to see you too., I said” 😘😘[/spoiler] 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

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                                    • Edited by Rapscallion: 4/24/2018 2:06:50 AM
                                      They definitely picked some odd folks to represent the Destiny community... You are one hated SOB, with no following, yet you were invited. Interesting.

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                                      • was this a [quote]Community Summit[/quote] or streamers Summit? still don't care i am happy playing warframe today will be my 90 day login reward.

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                                        • Wow, I did not realize such a large amount of people don’t like you....... I’m surprised to be honest

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                                        • This summit has been done because it's a lot more cost productive than getting their team of 800 developers actually creating new content. Bungie invite a handful of Youtubers over there so they can come back and create some hype and it's hardly cost them anything. The "Live team" will now just do what they were going to, with no changes, and they will sell more of the DLC that was content removed before the game was released.

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