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9/18/2017 3:15:43 AM
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Destiny 2 - Worse than D1 - RNG in all the wrong places!

* Subclass Quests - RNG * Strikes - RNG * Crucible modes - RNG * Light Level - RNG * Mods - RNG * Faction gear - RNG * Vendors - RNG * Raid rewards - RNG * Trials rewards - RNG * Public Event rewards - RNG * Clan rewards - RNG * Shaders - RNG * Sparrows, ships, and ghosts - RNG from Eververse (and no more drops from raids, events, etc) * Ammo - RNG (and yellow bars dont always drop heavy!) * Weapons - STATIC ROLLS, no more rerolling to customize perks * Skill trees - STATIC TREES, no more mixing skills to customize playstyle * Infusion - STATIC 1:1 INFUSIONS, no more infusing any primary into any primary to customize playstyle, you get locked into using whatever weapons are highest light. So even if you prefer scout rifles, you'll probably get stuck with a useless sidearm * Clan - STATIC EXPERIENCE BAR, only 10,000 xp a week regardless of clan size. Does not scale. Large clans fill this in a few hours and get bored, small clans struggle all week * Perks - NO RNG PERKS - Luck in the chamber and similar perks have all been nerfed right out of the game and replaced with useless things instead * Xur - NO EXOTIC ENGRAMS - Xur now only sells starter/trash gear for a few shards. No more engrams, no more coins, no more weapon bundles, no more AMMO SYNTHS * Raid - NO RAID PERKS/LACK OF DROPS - Remember when raid gear helped you do better in raids with specific perks? NERFED. All these Calus coins from beating checkpoints and opening the locked chests, I should be able to at least buy cosmetic raid gear right? NOPE- SLOT MACHINE. Overall Destiny 2 is a much worse, heavily nerfed version of Destiny 1 based on these facts that are clear to anyone. Poor design choices all around. All the wrong things are RNG. 99,999 glimmer isnt enough when you need to blow 300,000 to get one RNG kinetic mod from the gunsmith to raise your light level. Shaders should be single use, but RE-USABLE - as in able to unequip them and apply them to a new piece of gear. Vendors should actually SELL STUFF, not just be casino slot machines all over. Strikes and crucible modes should be manually selectable, not RNG everytime. Clans need rework, as other than 4 clan engrams a week, theres not any other point to them, not even clan based pvp modes or anything. Destiny 2's biggest problem besides RNG is lack of content. Once you get your 4 clan engrams, beat trials and the raid, theres nothing left to do all week besides grind boring public events. Lost Sectors arent the "mini-raids" we were promised. Patrol and high value targets are unrewarding. Strike playlist isnt rewarding at all, and crucible is too random. No more grinding legendary engrams to manually boost light level, as all normal purples drop 10 light levels lower than what you need to even break even! No more grinding for god roll guns. No more grinding for OP exotics. No more leveling up gear. No more grind at all really, and the grind was a vital part of D1. Hopefully Destiny 3 will be the game Luke Smith promised Destiny 1 to be, as the first 2 games certainly fell very short. Perhaps a drastic change in leadership over at Bungie is necessary to improve this franchise. TLDR - Destiny 2 nerfed the best parts of D1 and replaced them with bad RNG designs and lack of content

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  • I can honestly say I have zero clue why the raid is even happening. Like, we didn't even fight the actual emperor.

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  • I'm sorry bubut lost sectors aren't mini-raids bro I solo them w ease. They're more like mini missions.

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    • I totally agree with op.. bored of it already.. raid sucks..thought it was a shooter? Instead it's you go play patty wack in that corner and you do jumping jacks when the fat man claps..really bungie your raid feels like more of a nursery rhyme then a good gun fight..idk I'll get my 1000gs and move on..also whoever said anthem will destroy this game. I AGREE 100 PERCENT

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    • Destiny will never be the game a lot of us want it to be. We want to basically only play destiny and have it be like an mmo that has tones of side quests. Long difficult quests to get truly powerful gear. Raids that take weeks to complete and have 10+ bosses. A grind for the perfect min/maxed build, customizable perk trees in weapons as well as subclasses to play our way. Destiny is too casual but I keep playing it because the gun play is worlds better than any other shooter mmo that I have tried. I just want it to have more for the hardcore, we were getting there at the end of destiny 1 with lots to do and awesome quests like the outbreak prime. That was a glimpse to what destiny could and should be in my opinion.

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    • Had a bad feeling and it's true. Destiny 2 replay value is eh... I'm wondering what happened to...you'll be able to persist into new zones and that random player will go through too. Anyone able to follow a random into new zones?

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      • I agree that d2 is worse than d1 in many ways but rng is not one of them, drops are consistent if you play the game and use the vendors.

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        • My main gripe is the static subs I wish they went the opposite direction with MORE nodes and MORE individuality to how people can customize. I don't mind the Artifacts really especially with all the lore and the coolness you get when you got to the quest location. The weapons I feel they did another tricky word play with more loot meaning more of the SAME loot OVER and OVER. I wouldn't mid smaller loot table if perks weren't static and the guns could feel different based on the perks they drop with. I would like them to continue to add loot regularly not just with content releases but may 5-10 guns or 1/3 armor sets every 1 or 2 months.(with how bungie recycles models you wont make me believe something like this isn't possible)

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        • Lolololol

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          • Are you -blam!-ing kidding me?

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          • Might I suggest that you uninstall this game. It doesn't seem like a game for you

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            • Infusion? no actually use the gun you want your light level is calculated by every single weapon that you own wethers it in your vault in your inventory or even on another character! so infusion does not get you stuck with a specific weapon. Xur? so you want those legacy engrams? he really didn't sell them that much and the game "fell short", okay because the game is clrealy over 13 days after release? stop it there is so much more content that will be coming out for this game, we have a garunteed 2 more DLC's and a heroic raid to experience.

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            • It is the initial base game. I started out awesome and was a blast to play, however there is limited content given more will be provided with each new expansion and patchwork. You are comparing D2 (1.0) to D1 (256.5)... the updates and expansions put into D1 made it what it is and D2 still has room to grow. GIVE IT A CHANCE

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              • Oh this is precious. He has only 1 class. Warlock. Probably created 3 of them to try and get the highest rank as fast as possible. I have all 3 Classes, and a raid away from being your light power level. You're complaining just to complain. I can understand frustrations with RNG, but complaining about the things that broke Destiny one. "One in the Chamber" and "PVP", only make you sound like someone who exploited the broken things in the game. PvP has never been balanced, and issues still exist, but do us all a favor. Just don't play anymore. You sound like you inserted your tampon in the wrong hole.

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                • Though I disagree with you and believe that destiny 2 is quite enjoyable, if you look at Luke Smith's backstory, he is the Anakin Skywalker of video games

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                • Several things. In my opinion if you need to write a rant that long, maybe just don't play the game. Two, I personally feel that, while not perfect, Destiny 2 is a very enjoyable game, and in my opinion, better than the first. Three, it is my opinion that when folks like the original poster give their opinion, perhaps it would be a little more respectful to frame it as such rather than as Fact written in stone and handed to them by the God of their understanding. I've attempted to demonstrate that here. Thanks and good day to you.

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                  • I fell asleep just starting to read this post. Bla bla bla

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                    • I disagree. I like it.

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                      • Edited by ZeroPointGamer: 9/18/2017 6:20:08 PM
                        Didn't like this post at all, but after reading 'lack of content' I just bursted into laughing: HahaahaHaHaA!

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                        • As much as I'm enjoying the game you right.

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                        • I'm pretty disappointed with the game tbh.

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                        • Don't play the game or come to the forums then do you can really show your displeasure. It'll be a win for everyone involved.

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                        • Edited by Willie Killigan: 9/18/2017 11:13:57 AM
                          Bungie is a business first and foremost and RNG has proven to be a solid business model in gaming. Couple that with creating a full game and releasing it in timely installments to increase long term revenue. It's the model publishers and developers have been using in recent years. Nearly all games now even sports franchises like Madden and NBA 2K have adopted RNG, micros, dailies, weeklies and the sort, updating their game as they go along. It sucks but get used to it, this is how gaming will be here on out, no matter the AAA title you play. Remember D1 vanilla was bare bones on features as well, also lacked any sort of story. D1 evolved over it's lifetime. By Y3 D1, there were so many features and modes it was overwhelming. We're only in week 2/3 of D2, give it time and Bungie will add improvements and more features as is the unfortunate norm. I simply play to play, long as I got friends on and enemies to shoot I have a reason to play Destiny. I'm in for the long haul, but I have waaaaaaaaaay more patience than most.

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                          • I'm sorry? Lack of Content? Are you high? There is a ton of content, but I guess because it doesn't allow you to reach LL 350, it doesn't exist? Compare all the stuff you can do in D2 to D1, a ton more, and much higher quality.

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                            • Destiny is a fun game. But will never be a great game until they get rid of this gambling addiction business model. Gear needs guaranteed paths, not rng only. You don't earn anything in Destiny. You just get lucky. I would grind more if I knew I had a path to what I want. But RNG only........no thanks.

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                            • Destiny 2 although has its problems here and there.. DEFINITELY is not worse than destiny 1. You cannot even begin to even compare vanilla destiny to destiny 2.

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                              • The fanboys are coming. Everything you wrote is true.

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