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5/15/2017 2:13:17 PM
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Questions about god.
I have recently discovered this quote, what are your guys' views on it?
[spoiler]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
-Epicurus[/spoiler]
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God's cute.
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4 RepliesOk, no matter your belief system, let us just say that God exists for the duration of what I have to say & it does not matter which God, we are just talking a generic universal being of the highest order or in short, a god. We as humans, live on average, somewhere in 80's, last I heard. God lives forever. With that in mind, now, go find a 5 year old kid (no kidnapping, find a relative or a neighbor). Tell that kid you have their favorite piece of candy & show it to them. Tell them they can have it now [i][u]OR[/u][/i] they can see it, smell it, touch it, hear it, but never have it because it will cause tooth decay & diabetes. What will that child do? My point with that is, if God is real, omnipotent & eternal, he/she/it would be playing the long game, like a chessmaster. We see in terms of our lifespan, but he would be looking at it in terms of the length & scope of the existence of humanity. We can't imagine that, just as a 5 year old can not imagine passing on that candy. Just like a person growing up, if you look at humanity as a whole, look at how we have matured. Sure, we have set backs & periods of stagnation, but so does our life. If you think about it, we are trying to fit this phenomenal cosmic powerful being, into the itty-bitty living space of our level of understanding. How could we hope to understand that at our current level? Did we understand it when our parents did things "for our own good" at the time? Ok, I am done now, you can go back to whatever your regularly scheduled program is.
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because we are independent agents and we have to live with the consequences of our actions.
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God damn you just discovered it??
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40 RepliesWhy do people argue about religion when no belief will be changed?
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4 RepliesIt's hard to explain, but the simple answer is that God doesn't always play God. The answer lies, though, with the bible book of Job. He created us with free will and free thinking. He has on many occasions given humans a choice to serve him or other gods, obey him or take their own path. That said, as recounted in the book of Job, the Devil inquired to him a hefty accusation: That humans would ONLY serve God if they lead easy and happy lives and would only curse him should any tragedy or pain befall him. This was a challenge not just to humans but to God himself. Would a human serve God in spite of safety, and does God carry any weight outside of a safe and happy life of security? If God were to shield every human from pain, suffering, and tragedy that should befall them, he would only be validating the Devils claims. It is often in our darkest and most trying times that are best qualities show, and that includes resolve and faith. When we do do, we show that the Devil is a false accuser. Job was the first to do so, even after everything the Devil put him through, hd would not renounce God. But that's just what I believe.
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6 RepliesAll of this attention is making me blush...
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From what I believe, this is how it works. God have us a choice. He said we can have free will and he won't intervene, or you can not have free will and I'll guide you perfectly. We chose free will, and now we deal with the consequences
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The way I see it is evil is the absence of God.
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here's how I see it; everyone has their own opinions and beliefs. we all won't know who's right until the day we die. after that, we will all see which religion/minority in the religious field is the "correct" one.
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3 RepliesEpicurus proves that god is not real
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6 RepliesReligion does a shit job of explaining god.
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7 RepliesMan made evil is a result of free will and original sin. Natural evil (cancer, natural disasters) exist because we are in a fallen world near hell. God has given us a path to redemption to save us from evil and he will come again to put an end to the world and all the evil in it. So He is all powerful, all knowing, and all loving. [spoiler]That's the best explanation I have 😕[/spoiler]
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3 RepliesGod created man with free will, they chose to follow own their way along with temptation from Satan. This resulted in sin staying in the world. God gave free will and will now let it run its course.
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1 Reply[quote]I have recently discovered this quote, what are your guys' views on it? [spoiler]Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -Epicurus[/spoiler][/quote] Do some acid once or something and you will know all that shit.
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How do I answer questions about something that doesn't exist?
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2 RepliesSo many people posting don't know the first thing about the bible SMH
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To be clear, God does not will evil things for us. As the prophet Jeremiah conveys God’s word in Old Testament times, “For I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope” (Jer. 29:11). And as St. Paul and St. Peter both remind us, Jesus—God who became man for our sake—wills for every created person the greatest good possible: eternal salvation in heaven with him, the Father, and the Holy Spirit (1 Tim. 2:4-5, 2 Pet. 3:9). It's good you found this quote. I believe things happen for reasons we cannot understand. Keep searching what your heart is trying to show you. If you have any questions dm me.
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19 RepliesYeah that's an oversight by his entire fan club. They'll try and tell you Epicurus was wrong or being fallacious but he hit the nail on the head.
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Edited by love god: 5/16/2017 6:41:32 PMFreedom will is out of his control.
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2 RepliesHumans were given free will. Thus God does not interfere in what we do or do not do to each other while on earth. Evil is man-made God had nothing to do with that. Thus back to the free will.
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2 RepliesIf I dug deep into theology I would likeky be able to answer. But I don't have the time, or the interest to do so. Besides, doesn't really matter what anyone says, even if they have great arguments for it. Few people's opinions actually get changed anyhow. So it's pointless to argue.
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5 RepliesEdited by ol azo: 5/16/2017 3:25:15 AMHe is able and willing. He hates sin, but allows it to test faith and our love for him and others. Remember, Satan and the heart is the source of all sin. That doesn't include God. Elie W. or whatever his name was is a good example of this.
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1 ReplyWe have free will for a reason.
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5 RepliesThis is called the Problem of Evil. My opinion is that it's not really paradoxical because if you read the bible, god is clearly an asshole, so there being evil is to be expected. That and he's a fictional character and as such, obviously has no impact on the state of the world.
