How can a third person game ever beat a fps. I wana look at my vex mythoclast up close and watch that shit glow red as I watch my enemies burn.

The story mission and side quest were fantastic. I loved that aspect of the game. The Dark Zone, however, was not fulfilling. I don't know what the production version will add, but hopefully it gives that point of the game a lot more direction. One point I can strongly agree with is the tension. You never know what another player is/will do. I learned my lesson immediately. I ran into the subway tunnels, found a rogue agent and a non-rogue agent, alone at the back of the tunnels. Doing my civic duty, I proceeded to kill the rogue agent. Only to be assassinated by the non-rogue agent. Also, yes, extraction points can become extremely tense, especially once the extraction is active. For example, a team of three joined my team of three waiting for an extraction. On a whim we decided to take them out. We waited until the chopper was hovering and took out our assigned players, snagged up their loot, and quickly extracted it. We survived long enough to successfully extract the loot. I believe we then dug into the spot to survive our rogue timer and ended up getting ambushed by that same fireteam. We took them out again, and some others that came, and quickly pulled out. We found a building to hide in but ended up getting overwhelmed by adds that were lurking inside. By that point, we had built up a 4 minute timer so really our chances for survival were super slim anyway. That was really the most excitement we had. Hunting rogues, or going rogue. There wasn't really much else to do in the DZ. I'll be getting the game, but I'm hoping that DZ quests are a thing. It's going to be tough to run a quest out there, then get shot down by rogue agents, only to have to do the quest again. But hey, that may very well be a fun/rewarding gameplay loop. We'll have to wait and see. One significant point I'd like to leave off with: after the Beta, I'm switching to a base game pre-order, down from the Gold edition. I'll be happy to pay for the season pass if the production version surprises me. But for now I can't justify the $100.

I would like to see destiny adopt a darkness zone in certain areas of patrol that would be awesome

Guess like you, I'm eager to see if there's a game that will take me away from destiny entirely... Division was a great beta, just worried about the end game content...

Cover mechanic shooters get boring very quickly imo so from what I've seen without playing it yet I don't believe it will suck me in.

I'm gonna get it, I just don't get the dark zone side implementation. From what I'm hearing, the best stuff comes from DZ, which essentially means forced PvP. If that's true, they're limiting themselves player wise, as most people would rather PvP as an option, and certainly don't want to lose items, especially when it's relatively easy to get killed by other players. I was shooting at a rogue this morning when another guy steps into my line of fire, causing me be flagged and promptly killed from behind. Or, I was fighting PvE mobs as another player runs towards me in the middle of them and causes the same scenario. The system is completely open to griefing and the advantage is always to the group trying to take your gear, unless you plan on blaating everyone who comes near you at extraction.

Did you see the map? Its fkn big that alone is cooler than all of destiny's small ass maps combined. 4 man squads over 3. Weapons seem pretty balanced so far unlike destiny. I like 3rd person a little better than first person. Tons of customizes for your character so we can truly look unique unlike destiny. Weapon skins. Gameplay is smooth like destiny so thats an even steven. Tons of attachments for guns so you can make a gun fit your play style to the T. Can you do that with destiny? Nope! I'm not saying this game will be better than destiny although for me it probably will but it will definitely give destiny a run for its money. Destiny is addicting because its an endless grind. The division is different, you actually get rewarded for putting in work. Extractions are fun, you never know if the other teams will try to screw you over and if they do, an epic battle plays out. Should i go on? The division is just too fun.

Guessing your talking about the division? Lol....

I haven't played the division beta, so I can't comment on gameplay but from the looks of it it took a pretty hefty downgrade from what was shown at e3 and I don't know about you guys but I've just about had enough of false advertising.

End game of Division is; Gather team in Dark Zone. Rob everyone. Rinse and repeat.

It seems like it's gonna be a good game for that type of game. Destiny is different. I can see me playing both though. .

People will play both. I don't get this mentality that we can only play one game.

I'm hoping the destiny Devs took the time to play it. There's lots of features they could adapt for destiny 2.

They lost me at Third Person.

What beta is this ( what game)