Seriously, it exaggerates all the flaws with PvP in this game this time! 1. SHOTGUNZ! Bungie just don't bring it. Shotguns are still too low risk, too high reward! The shotgun nerf did NOTHING, as Felwinter's Lie laughs about it, and so do the maps, especially Anomaly. It's not a thing about keeping your distance to shotguns, as you plainly CAN'T! Eliminates any skill gap there ever was. 2. LAAA - wait for it - AAAG!!! Don't know what the hell happened this time, but even for Destiny standards, this time Iron Banner is lagging like crazy. Shots are constantly not registering, and certain abilities like Fist of Panic and Shoulder Charge or sliding just make you invincible even though you clearly hit your prey. Ridiculous! 3. BALANCING! And you STILL fall off the rail! Congratulations on nerfing Hand Cannons and ARs which NO ONE asked for! At least now we can use Pulse Rifles instead of Sniper Rifles! Everything you achieved with the HC nerf especially, is that shots won't register properly anymore, due to the range nerf. It's not about damage or direct time to kill, it's about CONSISTENCY! Bungie eliminated consistent Hand Cannon duels! But at least the Thorn remains unaffected, because it's such a skillful gun, right? I was dreading the Red Death beforehand, but the real enemy is hit registration here! Throw your frikkin' Crucible out of the window, Bungie! Leave the idiotic Iron Banner be for some months and give us Queen's Wrath! And before you introduce Saladin again, make sure you give us a comptetitive environment that time around! Edit: Wow, didn't expect so many replies, thank you, guys! =) It seems that shotguns are indeed commonly accepted as being just extremely effective. Food for thought. Lag seems to a real this time around, too. For me personally, not only are many shots just not registering, but I'm getting many apple errors. Interestingly, often after a very good game. Hm. Keep it up, guys!