Its pretty hilarious to me that titans are punch everything class but the best class at punching everything is arc hunter with liars handshake or the safer/less potent assassins cowl.

And oh boy do we have something special for you Titan players out there, you get a green melee roaming super to add to your already existing void, arc and stasis melee roaming supers. No I promise this will be fun and different.

Posted this on another thread about this topic… maybe it’ll make sense here too. The issue with Titans subclasses identity has never been a ‘power’ issue… it’s a creative issue. Bungie has not done a good job creating archetypal fantasies for Titans in the same way they have for Hunters and Warlocks. They’ve done this most clearly on Hunters which I think contributes to their enduring popularity. They are clearly archetypical Rogues or agility based characters… Solar- Outlaw Void -Assassin Arc - Monk Stasis - Ninja Strand - Acrobat? They’ve done a decent job with Warlocks being classical mage/knowledge based archetype. Solar - White/Red Mage Void - Black Mage/Necromancer Arc - Green/Red Mage Stasis - Blue/Time Mage Strand - Summoner? They’ve done a poor job with Titans being classical Warrior/fighter archetypes. It’s really hard to come up with after Void. Void - Knight/Paladin Arc - Brawler? Solar - ??? Stasis - ??? Strand - Barbarian? This lack of clear archetypical characterization leads to the abilities feeling kind of mishmashed together and not having a clear theme. They also haven’t done a super great job giving Titans unique feeling abilities to make the kits feel like they play different. All the Hunter and Warlock melee abilities feel and work very differently. Titans have a flavor of shoulder charge that looks the same for the most part. 3.0 helped a little with things like Consecration but there is still no clear archetypical theme. Just my opinion though. I don’t see them changing anything anytime soon but the best thing they could do is give more thoughtful consideration to the way Titans interact in that ‘melee/close range’ playspace.

Good lord you titan mains are starting to take over the warlocks for the most desperate for a pitty party. You chose the "why gun when fist do job" class why on earth are you even in the slightest bit surprised at how your classes are being built?? Go play the other two for a while if you're getting over it that's fair enough but the constant complaining about the melee class being melee based is just plain stupid when you have two other options to play when you get bored of being melee based

If “Berserker” has an insane damage resist while moving like it does already, I’d be fine with it. Doesn’t look like there’s anything really going for it. So if they made him just really tanky, it’d fit the name.

From a stylish point of view, Hunters defintely won with Strand. They look really cool with the dart rope and also the melee Attack is definetely unique.

All I saw was the Hunter and Warlock being hyped up for their gimmicks will likely prove to be underwhelming in practice vs the Titan tried-and-true design that we know functions.

they weren't really that excited for any of it. they seemed just as enthused when talking about berserker as they were with the others, you were just viewing it from a heavily biased position i'm assuming. i feel like if they got extra excited talking about berserker you would say that they were overcompensating because they know it isn't that unique or interesting. edit: most people are complaining that berserker is another roaming super and that titans need another 1-n-done, but if that were the case these same people would complain that it is just thundercrash or nova bomb but green. I even saw someone say they'd like it to throw three lage stand spears "LIKE MOEBIUS QUIVER" then people would just complain it's a moebius quiver reskin. i agree that something more unique could have been thought up and developed (I had my own idea) but it seems like a lot of people here don't even really know what it is they want.

I remember that one guy way back on the D1 Kings Fall reveal of the, [i]at the time[/i], new Light Subclasses. He was so excited about the work he and his team had put it and it genuinely got me hyped for that DLC.

Strand will wind up like Stasis anyways, so I wouldn't let it bother you. I thought the most telling was when they mentioned they could have just done what players actually wanted and thought would be cool -- poison -- but then thought nah we are Bungie lets do the opposite of what everyone would want. Their ego shines brighter than any of their work.

There are no Titan mains that work on subclasses at Bungie and it clearly shows. They just went through the motions and read a script they probably stayed up all night to make. They all huddled up last night and was like we all know Titan strand is shi.. but we gotta make something up to try and sell this to Titan mains.