While I do agree with some of the criticisms I do think they are being overblown. I don't really get people complaining about feeling underpowered and guns feeling weak. Go back to D1 create a new character from scratch and see how underpowered you feel. See how weak those early guns are against even lower enemies. People are comparing lower light characters to their year three god level characters, fully decked out with raid gear and exotics. You're meant to feel weak until you start hitting that end game content. I personally really enjoyed the beta. Super hyped now to play the full game.

What "issues?" Most of the issues I've seen broached aren't legitimate "issues." The majority of complaints I see are people b*tching about not being able to one shot mobs in the [i]first mission[/i] of a [i]brand new game[/i] (referring to them as "bullet sponges," etc.) ffs. There's absolutely zero consideration being given to the power augmentation that comes from progression in loot driven games by these tools. In WoW I can now [i]SOLO[/i] dungeons that 99% of the player base couldn't complete in groups of [i]five players[/i] when first released, because progression has made me exponentially more powerful than I was when legion first dropped. Many of these people are ****ing morons who, despite playing a looter/shooter for 2 or even 3 years, still plainly have no idea how loot driven games work whatsoever. The best thing Bungie could could do is ignore these jackasses completely and proceed as intended.

In other words, beyond the blatant levels of complete and utter shit that has been encoded unto Destiny, the OP found one or two things new and interesting that TOTALLY REDEEMED IT

Change isn't always good when that change alters the way the game is played for the worse. It seems like the PvE side of Destiny has been expanded greatly but if our tools feel less fun then what's the point? Having the game decide when I can use my sniper or shottie makes me feel like I have less control over how I approach the encounters. I understand that the ammo drops have been tuned but the tuning doesn't fix the fact that the load out system has changed. Having two primary weapons is objectively less fun than having primary/special/heavy. Primary weapons don't function differently enough to warrant having two of them. It takes away my choice. Sometimes I want to run around and use my special and my heavy to do the majority of my kills. In Destiny 2 I can no longer do that. I feel the move to primary/primary/power is a monumentally bad decision and goes against one of the pillars of what we loved about Destiny 1.

I have no problem with people ranting and expressing their disappointment. I have no problem with people saying they canceled their pre-order or that they won't be buying D2. That's their right and I'm not going to argue with them, call them names or keep a list so I can make fun of them if they change their minds. There are things that I really didn't like about beta and things that I think Bungie improved. Change isn't always good. That's why this lyric makes so much sense: [i]Always hopeful, yet discontent, He knows [b]changes[/b] aren't permanent. But [b]change[/b] is. [/i]

My main issue is a fundamental one, the new weapon system is boring and promotes passive play.

I also had fun with the beta. And while, yes, I do agree with some of the criticism around supers/abilities, I also don't mind the changes. I really enjoy what Bungie did with PVP, and I'm confident that when the base game launches, the PVE modes will have much more content than Destiny 1 ever had. PVE is even more interesting to me now as well, especially when playing the strike. Not having constant supers, grenades, or heavy ammo changes the way I play, and that was a good thing. Hopefully that means you're actually working with your team a bit more and strategizing new ways to defeat your enemies. Additionally, this is a NEW game: Destiny 2. It's not an expansion or DLC for Destiny 1. Yes, many elements are similar, but this game should pride itself on being a different experience from Destiny 1. I look at Bungie's work on Halo's 1, 2, 3, and Reach. Yes, they're all Halo and at the end of the day, they have similar playstyles, but there were elements in 2, 3, and Reach that were vastly different than the previous version. Halo 2 added duel wielding and the Battle Rifle, which greatly changed several aspects of the game; whereas Halo 3 seemed to really refine the weapon and map design while also adding equipment like the bubble shield, energy drainer, etc. I didn't personally care for Reach, but I also understood that it would be vastly different from Halo 3, and as gamers, I think we need to be open to change. I'm not trying to compare Destiny to Halo, but my point is that people should not necessarily expect Destiny 2 to have a similar experience to Destiny 1. Vanilla Destiny will still be around should people want to play it instead of Destiny 2, and hopefully Bungie will continue to support both games. I, however, am interested in playing Destiny 2, and want that experience to be something new and different...

Is it too much to ask for a massive open world with lots of new things to do and see every day on a guardian that can wreck face with some cool abilities?

Quick question: Do Kinetic weapons actually do more damage than energy weapons after the enemy shield has been popped? Because if not, then the whole 2 primaries system is pointless to me. Not saying I don't like it, but then again it wouldn't really matter.

I like the beta and I'm definitely a pve player. I liked the pvp as well. I thought it played well too. Cooldowns are too long but I'm betting can be reduced with gear. Can't freaking wait til launch!

I'm having a blast in control!

Best part I enjoyed was going the opposite way during the strike, exploring and finding the pikes. Lots of different areas with enemies spawning in. I really like the new dual primary setup. I much prefer primaries anyway. Lots of mod slots seem to indicate quite a bit of customization for weapons and armor. I am very ready for change. As long as ammo drops are increased (my main issue with the Beta and Bungie already indicated that they will be), I will be ready to enjoy Destiny 2 in September.

Devil's lair was in the beta, and was the best strike in the base game

Best part was deleting beta and pre ordering uncharted lost legacy.