Yep, I get that these things take time and I would prefer a raid that had a lot less bugs on release but they could be doing so many little bits in between just to keep the players happy. From what I'm seeing on here the only people that will be here for HoW are the Christmas noobs maybe and the people like me that bought the limited editions and season passes. But even I'm off for a bit, been die hard about this game since launch but since hard Crota launched with its OTT drop rate its left me with nothing left to do!! That I want to do anyway.