I have seen the argument that "if everyone has gally then it will break the game" so many times now that I decided to write this counter argument. (if you read my wall of text, I salute you!).
I will start with this question:
[b]What makes people think that if it was sold (again) "everyone would buy it"?[/b]
Sure I concede a LOT of people would buy it especially those who have been playing since day one and are still to get lucky with a drop.
However that said not everyone has 3 high level characters some people only have one and so whilst coins are easily obtained for some of us it isn't the case for "everyone". As a result not "everyone" will be able to afford it. Just because you have 300 coins it isn't the same for everyone.
I have seen several posts this week about people struggling to get enough coins for Ice Breaker. So for a start if gally was sold, for instance, THIS coming Friday it would be difficult for at least some people to get the coins a second week in a row especially if they already splashed out on Ice Breaker or multiple Ice Breakers this week.
Further more, just like when gally was first sold there will be a section of new players (especially after xmas) that still are not aware of the power of it.
Not everyone visits the forum (only a very small percentage of the actual player base) and many people play solo and don't interact with others so there will definitely be a percentage of players who won't purchase it due to lack of awareness.
Then on top of that you will have another percentage of people who "just don"t like rocket launchers" who won't buy it.
And another section who will think, as some of us did when it was first sold, "why would I use an exotic in the heavy slot?".
Even from those that know it is good there will be some that love another exotic so much that they always run with that and will think it is a waste of coins.
Then you have to consider the rest of Xur's inventory at the time that gally is (sold for the 2nd time), some people might have a hard decision (just like some did this week between obsidian mind and IB, there were multiple posts about this on the forum). What if Xur was selling Gally and Heart of the paraxic fire? Some people will only have coins for one or the other again reducing gally sales.
Now you could argue that some of these are small percentages but they all add up when you think of all the possible contributing factors.
My conclusion? Even if Xur sold gally a second time there is no way that "everyone" would obtain it.
[b]Moving on to my second point, even if a large percentage of the player base DID purchase gally what realistically is it going to break?[/b]
[b]Seriously, STOP and think about it.[/b]
Think about what gally is actually good for, its good for boss damage right?
[b]Ok so where are bosses found in destiny?[/b]
1.) Strikes - Ok so if you have a fire team with 3 gallys in it and you can kill the boss fast, so what?
So we can run a few more strikes per hour but that's it. Strikes don't drop raid gear and you still have to sink time into getting to the boss.
[b]I don't see how this would break the game.[/b]
2.) Nightfall - same as above no raid gear and you still have to get to the boss. Ok so maybe you can more efficiently kill yellow mobs but really if you are packing the right set of burn weapons unless it is a solar week I can't see gally making any major difference.
[b]I don't see how this would break the game.[/b]
P.S. Nightfall rewards are not what they were anyway with all the shards and coins.
3.) Weekly - same as the other arguments with the addition that rewards are rarely anything other than coins.
[b]Again shaving a few minutes off a weekly is not game breaking.[/b]
4.) VoG - Ok so this is the only major difference I can see. VoG runs could be speeded up somewhat if everyone in the team had a gally (as shown in that now famous video that every tom, dick and harry seems to like to reference.)
However the majority of VoG gear with the exception of the Mythocast is either obsolete or on its way out.
[b]So even if people could rush the raid I don't see how it would be game breaking.[/b]
All you are doing is saving "some time" here and there with any of the above activities.
5.) Crota Raid - Crota can only be damaged with the sword, ok he can be put in his Kneel state quicker with gally, and that is the only advantage I can see here.
There are still multiple cheeses (even after the patch) in the normal raid that can be exploited by one or 2 people that allow more advancement than should be possible either solo or in a small team than if everyone was packing a gally.
[b]In comparison those cheeses have helped more people artificially or at least much more quickly achieve the highest rank than selling gally ever will.[/b]
Finally I would like to say that even if a lot of people brought gally it doesn't mean they will have one on every character or always have it equipped. Sure you would see an increase for a while as always when Xur sells a new toy but people get bored and like to switch things up a bit.
I really can't see how selling gally will "break the game". The only possible negative action I can think of coming out of Xur selling gally would be an increase in elitist raid groups discriminating against picking people who don't have it. As they would now expect you to have brought it.
I have tried to be precise in my argument but I am sure "someone" will pick holes and twist words as they always do on this forum...
*rolleyes*
and if you want to do that then go ahead, but I will only be replying to well reasoned counter arguments from people who have actually read my post.
Have at it! I am ready to "git good scrub"...
*sigh*
Peace.
[b]TL/DR[/b]
For those posting TL/DR, it isn't possible to shorten this post. It is a detailed counter argument to all the posts claiming if Xur sells Ghorn it will break the game. The post is long because it needs to be to get the points across for the counter argument. I know it's long so you don't need to comment TL/DR.
[b]Alternative TL/DR This guy says it much better in less words :)[/b]
https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/105916664/0/0/1
[b]I have a gally btw so this isn't a whine about not having it :) [/b]
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It was on sale before, hope can be again anytime (I already have mine and I use it only for raid)
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I really don't see why people think it's bad to make things quicker, if you want strikes and Raids to last Dupree long then don't use it.
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Finally someone who understands reason
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7 Risposte"What makes people think if it's sold everyone will buy it?" I stopped reading after that
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You wrote WAY too many words on this. The answer is simple: it keeps you playing. That's it,....
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6 RispostePeople said the same with Ice Breaker. Is the game broken? Lol no, makes no difference. Same with this rocket launcher.
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Got my first ghorn before they patched the first chest on crotas end. wasn't even expecting an exotic I just wanted a shard so I can upgrade my gear, my second is from killing crota trying for a black hammer drop. So pretty much the item that you want as they say, comes when you least expected.
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Holy mother of walls Batman!
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Bungie should make Xûr sell one you have to buy with glimmer. 250001 glimmer lol.
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I already have one and I would buy it again, why would some without it not buy it? I don't even like rocket launchers that much, but I like things dying really fast, even I can see the value in it, everyone with a brain would buy it just for that power
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2 RisposteSo xur will happily sell red death with perks that it heals you every enemy you kill but they won't sell gjhallahorn?
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5 RisposteI just don't want it sold because raids will turn into a joke, yes I actually think that. I'll consistently get to go attack Crota 3 times per sword, and Atheon will die on the first run every time. Part of the fun of the raids is having to adapt to the equipment of the team, and I personally don't want every run to be linear and exactly the same (alright fire Gally #GAMEOVER), this game has enough things I don't want to run through again because of how simple it is.
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2 Rispostei never knew how good a maxed gally was until i blasted my way through the warmind and crota missions solo - holy shit it nuked everything
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68 RisposteHey if gally was sold it wouldn't be gally. Second gally is meant to be earned that's why it is so dang hard to get. Third it would break PVP as a game due to everyone just waiting for heavy and boom everyone with gally? No thankyou. I don't have gally either but I sure don't want xur to sell it. If everyone has it then it be just like what happened to red death, not special and everyone has it big whoopdy doo. I just rather earn it no matter how long it takes me. Sorry man it's just making the game balanced xur would sell it just to make a few people happy. Their would be a lot more angry. But this is my opinion as you have yours
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I think that it would break raids because of you don't have it now they will sometimes kick you but after he sells the gjalahorn it would not be sometimes anymore. Also the diversity of weapons would be very low and no one would need or want other exotics.
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When I got Gjallarhorn my friend told me to not buy the icebreaker because "I should only use Gjallarhorn, not any other exotic because they're all garbages." He obviously didn't have it.
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4 RisposteI just got it after 500 plus hrs. The feeling of it DROPPING was amazing. Go ahead and buy it. U wont ever know that feeling. Lol
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6 RisposteI think bungie won't sell it because they want people to keep playing to get it, seriously I'm pretty sure that's the only reason 40% of people are still playing.
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I agree with your post as well. If everyone can obtain a gun that ultimately helps a fireteam in EVERY situation.. Then why not? Thoughtful insight.
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7 RisposteAt this point in the game, I could care less what xur sells. Gally, thunder or patience and time. Just let people have fun and if someone xurns it get over it. I agree with your post sir
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So many people in denial
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1 RispondiIt will not truly break the game. But it makes it so much easier. I have 2 and trust me nothing is hard with it. The Crota raid gave us a new rocket launcher to feel a taste of power. (Hunger). I think bunggie have been nice enough. And the part about only having 1 so all you dudes can't use it. The iPhone app fixed that issue. Transfer in game. So xur please don't sell it to the world make everyone wait for the true feeling of achievement as it drops.
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2 RisposteIt will break the game