In bungies notes today they outlined the various fixes to the cheeses that they are implementing, in normal mode first! I for one can't wait to hear the whining and crying from all of the people who can't beat it legit now! And the "Exotic chest" is no longer exotic!! no more freebies!!! Now those noobs also have to beat the death singer at a shot at the real stuff. To all of my fellow non-cheesers, lets sit back and watch the tears flow!
Edit: Thanks for all of the replies! Keep them Coming! Its nice to hear all of the support (even from those defending their cheese!)
Edit2: Thanks again! I'm getting a lot of responses saying that no one thinks that people will have any problems once the patches are done. Many people of this forum seem to think anyone is capable of people him every time- well as an avid raider I raid just about every day and well, here is a story from just last night:
Was helping a group last night of kids that had only cheesed it, which they actually said they have only cheated and never done it legit (I liked their honesty so I helped out). Helped them kill the death singers pretty much single handedly. Then came crota.... And with 5 people (we only designated one sniper for this reason) they could not bring his shield down even once. Rockets were flying past him over and over again, trying to take it down with their guns wasn't working because they couldn't keep the damage going on him continuously for long enough. So what had to happen, I freaking soloed crota myself and let ALL 5 of them snipe and take out ads while I killed th swordbearer, grabbed the sword, jumped up next to crota, pulled out my gally, took down his shield, picked up the sword and went to town. 2 tries like this and all 5 of them got their rewards... So to all of you saying everyone will be able to do it, you're simply lying to yourself and it sounds stupid. Go on LFG and find a group of kids to join their groups and see how many of them actually run clean and finish. You'll see.
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Just wait till Tuesday.... "Omg Bungie I've been trying to kill Crota for 8 hours with 5 other retards who only ever cheesed it, this is so unfair!!!"
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1 RispondiModificato da malcolm13uk: 1/9/2015 5:16:26 PMBeen cheesing maze n bridge for last few weeks just as you could do them solo.. But I have done them legit so tbh I like many saw that it'd be patched Rest of the raid been doing legit so no worries there. Maze is simple (just use the rule: no man gets left behind n keep bunched) Bridge is ok ish.. Just getting the 4th person across can cause some issues but as long as everyone kills their gk it should be ok Deathsingers is pretty simple tbh. Stand where Crota does send one person into one side n retreat out, dps wizard. Send 2 in to kill shrieker, send one into other side to get out second wizard, other three just fire some rockets down at large group of knights at the bottom. Dps wizard 2. Send 2 in to kill shrieker whilst other 4 again try n thin out the knights. Once shrieker blast is done everyone into the crystal room dps the witch (get 2/3 stood on the door frame ) once she's down retreat to where you were stood earlier n slowly take out adds until it says new mission. Crota - 5 ppl downstairs one person sniping (I'm normally the sniper) sword user tells other 4 when to kill sb n also when to take down crota. With decent communication this battle done legit is IMO the easiest bit of the entire raid to do legit
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5 RisposteBest part is when the hard raid comes out and I pick someone up and they don't know how to even do the bridge, I just swiftly kick them from the fireteam and find someone who isn't a cheesing scrub
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Well looks like someone is lactose intolerant!
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1 RispondiThis guy doesn't have a single maxed weapon. This tool is the one who needs the cheese.
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So they added about five minutes to soloing the first part. We'll see if the bridge was actually fixed. I'm pretty happy about the witch fight though. Hopefully she gives materials too.
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I'm super happy that they are getting rid of the cheese, it was getting rather moldy and starting to smell. The bridge part was really fun to do legitimately.
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Wont be out til late tues so still a chance at reset i guarantee you
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You sound like one of those people that would cry about others cheesing it. Lol
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I rarely if every hear anyone whining about patching the glitches, but I've seen tons of these posts. It's like people like you are just looking for a reason to gloat. It's annoying and dumb.
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My group can do it legit. Fast too. The cheese just made it faster when you have 3 nightfalls and 3 raids you're trying to do. Were more than ready for the hard raid
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13 RisposteI hear more whining from people like you that whine about cheesers than cheesers who cant complete crota.
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There's always going to be a cheese, people will find another way
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You are saying this like if there isn't going to be more cheeses coming out... Sit back, watch and learn kid. I, myself completed the Raid 5-6 times legit before starting to cheese, so why am i going to struggle with something that i completed 5-6 times, i don't even do VoG anymore.
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Cry me a river. I'm glad they are fixing it so you kids quit complaining about people using exploits.
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2 RisposteWe all know a new cheese will be found. That's just how people are. I've learned to live with it. I think it's funny that people talk shit about players whining cause there won't be a cheese but in fact most of those people are whining because there IS a cheese. Funny how things work.
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3 RisposteFirst off, there won't be any complaining because the raid is way to easy. Most people cheese it to save time and that's the only reason. Why spend 40 minutes doing whole raid legit when you can cheese the whole thing in minutes. Once its patched, people will just have to waste a little more time to get their drops for the week.
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7 RisposteOMG why are you acting like its -blam!-ing hard to do legit?! I'm tired of these annoying repetitive posts! It's easy as shit doing the raid legit people only cheesed because the new raid is boring.
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I cheese for a time saver i don't cheese because i cant do it legit. The first chest has never gave me anything but shards so Bungie is making a real "big" change there haha
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4 RisposteCan't wait to see 9 more ignorant posts like this
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Modificato da AggressiveTuna: 1/9/2015 6:51:51 PMI always thought cheesing the bridge and crota was stupid, might as well run it legit because we all knew this patch was coming... I thought the lamp exploit was cool... Took a little skill to be able to do it... I'm personally happy they're fixing this raid... The first time I played it.. Back when the dlc dropped.. I really enjoyed trying to figure out what the hell we were supposed to do... It actually took like a week for me to get to crota... Now u can't even join a rando group without the fire team leader pulling his plug... Like dude it takes longer for u to get back in than it does to best it legit... It's not hard and I don't see what the big deal is. I really have no opinion either way.. People say " well the people who cheese have an unfair advantage"... Who cares lol they're not teaming up with the hive to shoot u with their "cheese earned" guns... And if anything they're scrubs who ain't gonna be able to use the guns properly in crucible... And all the gear is gonna be worthless in a few months..it's the same mentality as people who have a ice breaker and think it'll break the game if everyone had one.... WHO CARES? Lol like get over it.... And although I haven't heard much botching from the cheeses about this getting fixed... (People are afraid to admit it lol) but to those people who are upset... It's gonna be way more rewarding when that black hammer or raid helmet drops and u did it legit rather than altering the network and glitching the shit outta that poor bastard crota. Either way cheese no cheese... This is a game... I play it way to much to consider it casual and I take it pretty serious at times... But let people do what they want... They're gonna do it any way .. Kinda just wasting your time calling em out... We all know that they won't have the primaries If all they relied on was cheesing him in the past... So when I get my word of crota you'll know I earned that shit.... And last word ... Let's be honest ... This patch is most likely gonna open up a whole new book of glitches and exploits that cheeses are gonna take advantage of... It's all good.
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I'm just looking forward to do the raid, not wanted to cheese it, like all my friends have been, so looking forward to do it legit
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If they are only fixing the ones they listed there is still gunna be a lot of chesse left to be had. We will get to enjoy a lot of wine so get your tear buckets ready
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1 RispondiCheese!