I feel that The Devil You Don't needs a to its rang and that the snap shot perk needs to be replaced with field scout. Right now IMO the TFWPKY is by far the superior choice. I think the rang of the devil you don't needs to be on par with TFWPKY , the same goes for the mag size.

Hey my boy, DeeJ whatsup? What do you say we give these kids voidfang investments tomorrow ;)

Deej, just wondering if anyone from the bungie team actually used no land beyond before releasing it?

Here's an idea? Let's give everyone at bungie a promotion but reset their pay scale to entry level. That sounds fun right Deej? You just need a good recommendation from your supervisor who only comes into the office once a week and only reviews employees at random and then you can start to work on your raises again. Simple.

Just echoing the rage here. I'm a 40-year-old married father of two, and the CEO of the company I founded 15 years ago. So my gaming time is severely limited (10 hours per week typically, sometimes 15 if my wife takes the kids somewhere). Play time is extremely valuable for us older gamers with effectively unlimited (when it comes to buying games) disposable income. Yesterday when I read that Bungie post, I felt physically nauseous. I've played MMOs and understand gear upgrade cycles, but Bungie really seems to have dropped the ball on this one. After getting all 3 classes to level 30, founding and growing a sizable mature gamers' clan, and being super-excited about the expansion for months, yesterday afternoon and evening I really considered quitting Destiny. I still might, there are a lot of great games out there this time of year. If Bungie wouldn't have reset all my scarce time leveling my exotics, I wouldn't even consider quitting now. The inequity in not recognizing players' huge time and effort to upgrade their exotics is massive, and is going to cost Bungie a lot of revenue over the long-term. Players' hard efforts grinding experience and materials should always be built upon as expansions are released, not destroyed. Bungie really needs to embrace the core gamers who evangelize for Destiny, not force them to stop playing. At every least, the exotic upgrades should scale based on the experience and resources poured into the weapon. A fully-maxed exotic shouldn't be reset to zero, or shouldn't have the same costs to upgrade at Xur in terms of strange coins, glimmer, and exotic shards. Players should be rewarded for playing hard since release, not have their knees knocked out from under them to level the playing field artificially.

Ok I'll say it. Majority of these players have spent hours and think because they play more than someone else thier entitled to perks. Thier not and should never be. I like these changes all of them. I'll have better gear out of it. But all those who don't are just people without strategies; they just want to be catered to. They would appreciate it more if they'd ever played a different mmo or even thought of how useless thier blue gear became over time. Thanks bungie, another long time fan.....

Vanguard gear should have been left alone at level 29. Bumping vanguard gear to 31 eliminated progression; the centerpiece of Online gaming. Requiring the gear farm in VoG should be a prerequisite to enter Crota's End. As it stands now, VoG will be disregarded by new players because they can easily buy better gear from a vendor; this is a big problem when VoG is only three months old. What you have done is replaced one raid with another. Destiny is already suffering from a lack of content and you've effectively "screwed the pooch" by eliminating VoG as a part if the progression stream.

Guess now I'm a week into it it all seems a bit pointless. I've levelled to 31 to be able to do level 30 dailies as I was 29 doing the 28s. The rewards are the same. The relative difficulty is the same. What was the point? Speaking as a mostly solo player I'm grinding away to get back to where I was. My progress has been reversed. I need a whole load of new guns to match my previous ones relative to the content. It would have been better to keep 24 vanguard strikes and 28 dailies at the original rewards and add another shard and/or engram to the new top tier ones. At least I would feel I'm levelling up for something better rather than to get back where I was pre dlc. And whilst you're listening can I have my mats for faction (crucible) marks back. Pretty please? Or add some vanguard mark gear to the faction vendors? Nice to have a bit of choice.

Well it is great this week. Next week it will be just like the norm. 3 nightfall and weekly on tues 3 VOG weds 3 Crota thurs Hope xur brings something to upgrade Friday. If not then build exotics I don't use or work on crucible marks.

You're always listening to the community? [b]BULLSHIT[/b] SOO many people are upset with the decisions Bungie has made over the past couple weeks and you guys aren't doing anything about it.