Im glad I play other games for pvp, destiny should be a pve game at this point. Take this from someone that has strictly played pvp for years.

[quote] It almost feels like they are intentionally butchering destiny PvP in multiple areas to make us so unhappy with this game, that we jump ship and buy marathon for hope of a better PvP experience [/quote] Yup, they've been butchering pvp for several years to get people to jump ship to a game that just got announced, and has no release date.

Yep. These forums and beyond are full of people who think Bungie is willfully and intentionally ruining Destiny.

After all these years of playing Destiny, it`s become more of a bad habit you can`t kick than something you go to and have some fun. Often find myself playing and really not enjoying it at all, only getting more and more pissed off/ Pissed that I`m doing it. Pissed that "they" have so screwed up MY GAME. Pissed that the content creators all make it look so easy. Bullet sponges and Serious Sam like waves get tedious and depressing. Rewards that fall way short of the effort needed. Yet I`m pretty sure I`ll fire up the xbox and play for a couple hours anyway. Bad habits are hard to break.

I’ll never buy anything else from them lol so that’s a high gamble

I got D1 for PVE and turned into a PVP player. I won’t be be buying any new Ip’s from Bungie because of the way they’ve handled Destiny and I sure won’t be buying an extraction shooter.

Thats exactly what i wont do. I dont care how good marathon is i wont ever buy or play it because of D2 PvP. -blam!- em

My friend, grieve and move on. Destiny in the beginning had full of hope, now that we are reaching its end and other projects are showing, you and many other are realizing that its just not going to be like what we hoped for. Sorry bro, its sad but if you are feeling like you are not having fun anymore and doing stuff just because of a habbit or a vice, just stop. Think and play something else that gives you joy.

Nope

I am 100% confident that is what they are doing. No doubt in my mind.

This couldn’t be true because Destiny PvP has never actually been good.

I'm done spending money with this company. I think I have 300 silver, and they can keep it. I don't even care about the final disappointment. Honestly, trying to get my friends and family on this game is like asking them to do my chores and yard work. We used to have so much fun and then we started getting error coded out of everything. I don't hate them, I'm just sad because I'm not a gamer and this was a great place for us.

Yeah the game hasn’t been good for a while. The fanbase is shrinking and the fanboys that are quick to reply in Bungie’s defense are disappearing as well. I think people have finally had enough.

[quote]I could be reaching here, but.. It almost feels like they are intentionally butchering destiny PvP in multiple areas to make us so unhappy with this game, that we jump ship and buy marathon for hope of a better PvP experience. Balance, lobbies, weapons, game modes, there are a ton of problems with PvP now and I’m sure many of us can go into detail on specific ones, but there’s just so many issues with destiny PvP now. The experience just isn’t enjoyable anymore. All of our weapons are remakes and nothing is original anymore. Most of our content is just pulled from D1 for “nostalgia”. I love this game but man, this is depressing. I know someone’s gonna say “play something else” but I play this game to have a good time with my friends. Once the product is bad, your friends start to show up less and then you’re just by yourself. I just wish [i]something[/i] would change. It’s just a cash grab for ornaments now, really.[/quote] You’re spot on

Had a feeling for a bit of nostalgia this weekend - maybe post Covid recovery brain fog but while my PS4 valiantly attempts a 77 Gb download for the latest D2 stuff, thought I'd have a look at the current Destiny/Bungie zeitgeist. Haven't played D2, or any game, in the last year and it appears not much has changed. Destiny was the only game I really played since the beta (I have 6.5k hrs in both D1 and D2) and I have to honestly say that the nostalgic fondness I have is for D1 only. With the benefit of hindsight, D2 was very largely a boring and frustrating experience. From the get-go, D2 lacked the mystique, atmosphere, music, innocence and for all its flaws, fun, of D1. I completed all of the D1 raids; one in D2. Trials to the Lighthouse in D1; never played it in D2. It became a never-ending job of grinding and levelling, to not actually play any end-game anyway, didn't seem much point, other than being in the world to explore and discover. I think one of the final things that felt the end was near was the re-introduction of D1 gear and content. I had my god-roll Eyaslunas, 1K, Adept Fatebringer, Tlaloc (the only reason I made a Warlock character) etc. why would I want to do tedious and almost impossibly difficult (for a solo player) activities to reacquire them? So many other frustrating and immersion-breaking flops - I never liked or wanted SRL, for example - but baking cakes, the woke story-lines, going from no-roll weapons (and double primaries) to Not Forgotten and Revoker, heavy-handed nerfs, and just general treacle mining for any progression to play content that I actually paid for, never made for anything I could describe as 'enjoyable.' But I was committed! Have been toying with idea of Lightfall to at least continue to the end of the story but I think I'll just log back into D1 and defend the ghost in the Cosmodrome.

You could be right, but the experience I have with a developers previous game say Bethesda where launches are concern of mine with Starfield. Definitely affects my perception of how I will think of with Starfield. Who by all of what I watched today looks like an amazing game, but I'm still going to wait until it goes live to determine whether I buy it. Same with Bungie whenever they get Marathon ready to go. Before it goes live, my experience Destiny will be factored in.