Imagine complaining about there being no challenging content when you've never solo flawlessed a dungeon, never done a master dungeon, never done a master raid, done only two strikes on GM. Not to mention any of the pvp. Maybe you'd manage to find a decent challenge if you actually played the game.

Only people that think they're cool for being good at a video game. Zero upvotes.🤣 It's almost like the vast majority of the community aren't elitists that play 24/7.

Unless there are rewards that match the rise in difficulty, it's going to be terrible. I especially feel bad for New Lights.

If there were better rewards, sure... Right now, nope.

They're overcompensating. "Difficult" in Destiny usually just means "tedious and time consuming." By May the game will be practically dead. These changes aren't going to pan out well for numbers. Nobody wants more of a slog but masochistic weirdos. It's not going to go over well 🤦

You said you're hyped about the increased difficulty..... But then said something about you use to "cheese nightfalls"? So, which is it? Why cheese anything if you want "increased difficulty"? You can't make this stuff up! Only on the D2 forums!!!

Not hyped, but it is necessary. Our abilities were made a lot more powerful with stasis and Light 2.0, so a retuning of the game seems like it was needed. But Bungie also needs to make the game more rewarding. No one is going to play through more difficult core content for rewards that are useless in other parts of the game. So they’d better rework the loot table as well.

I want darksouls level difficulty in patrols and strikes

I don't mind it, but I don't really support the -5 decrease to pl in hero. There should be an option to breeze through the easiest content while still maintaining the prestige of the harder activities.

Personally, I don't see the PL deltas lasting beyond S20/21. This is one of those situations that I feel like the top end of the playbase will be fine, but the low to middle end of the playerbase will take the brunt of the effects here, which will more than likely result in a faster post-release falloff in player engagement numbers (Hence my prediction on reversal). Master content is basically going to feel like GM difficulty at all times, so players who are accustomed to this level of difficulty will continue to be fine, but newer players will likely not engage with the content further upon trying, regardless of rewards tied to it. This will likely put negative pressure on the sherpa scene, as fewer people will want to carry lower skilled players through high-end content in which staying alive/putting out the required damage is not feasible (Just look at numbers of sherpa runs on LFG during GM weeks like Corrupted/Glassway/Lightblade). I feel like these changes will further tighten groups of skilled players into their clans and groups of friends who they know can handle that level of content, but not want to branch out for newer players, which is counteractive to the whole guardian ranks / commendations systems that are being introduced. Finally, any new master raids and dungeons are also likely DOA in terms of the LFG scene after the first few weeks once players start to obtain their triumph seal for the activity. Nobody is going to want to slog through Master Caiatl/Warpriest at forced -20, when even players who are at or above the level of the activity are struggling with it. I can't see Bungie wanting low to no engagement to be the desired effect. I would think that they would prefer to see engagement numbers remain healthy and grow over time as newer players become more capable of engaging with the content. Overall, my thoughts are that adding more challenge is fine, but I feel like the amount of change they have made, specifically with the forced deltas, are going to have the opposite of the desired effect as it pertains to engagement numbers; High-end players will likely be fine, but low to mid skilled players will likely de-populate the playlists and endgame rather quickly this year until the deltas are removed.

A time when The Wretched Eye Nightfall on Void Burn was something NOBODY wanted to suffer through because JESUS -blam!- CHRIST.