Something I've noticed is that the biggest problems with Gambit shifted from mostly PvP issues to mostly PvE due to the merge. The two biggest problems here are ad strength, and the glorified strike boss known as the Primeval. Ads are in this weird state of strength. They're tanky enough that primary fire isn't very effective, but too numerous and not tanky enough to call for consistent special ammo usage. This can be alleviated some with a minor/major spec, but it doesn't seem healthy for beefier ads especially early into the match (this seems to start within the second or third wave). Ironically, the Primeval is the exact opposite; it's like punching through drywall. If you use Lament, Cuirass Thundercrash, and/or other high DPS options, then you're basically busting through that wall with a sledgehammer instead. While the match obviously shouldn't drag on just for the sake of it, melting the Primeval within literal seconds is stupid broken and no amount of gear nerfing will fix that; the Primeval itself needs a buff as well as its envoys (however, this would need to be a thread in of itself). Of course, the PvP side can still be fine tuned. Invasions aren't as oppressive thanks to the lack of armament mods and the better tuning of portals, but they are still too linear and predictable. On top of that, the match's outcome is ridiculously dependent on the invader's ability to kill other enemy players in a 1v4 disadvantage. Something that should change is changing what the invader can do while invading. This could be in the form of traps, sabotaging parts of the map, or enabling some kind of debuff by simply existing on the enemy's side. This can allow newer invaders to not be as punished since they can still perform some kind of role, while also giving invaders of all skill level a higher degree of unpredictability. This is only touching upon (parts of) the actual gameplay and not even the rewards, which are very underwhelming both in number and acquisition. Overall, Gambit is extremely flawed in execution and needs a dedicated overhaul to its very core.

I dunno, I had an absolute riot last night running a sniper, SMG and the almighty boop cannon. I definitely left a few invaders wondering wtf just happened to them 😂

I hope it dies.

Gambit is in a better place than pvp right now. So there is that.

Yes I know I’m spamming this, but it’s things like this which are happening more frequently that really tarnish the game imo. We got invaded, I had 10 motes on me, I stayed in an empty area with another teammate, the teammate kills the invader, it’s announced by the drifter, 3 or so seconds after the invader dies I die, I check to see what killed me because I’m in an empty area, it was the invader. This mode is shite or am I missing something?

Let it die. You couldn't get me to queue another match of it without reprising Breakneck and Hush.

Gambit player % is above strikes and almost double everything else, other than patrol and crucible.

Gambit died with Beyond Light

Gambit dying you say? Good.

PVP can go away completely. They should make a Destiny Arena 2.0 and cut it of from the rest of the game!

I wouldn't say it's "dying". There's a ton of players willing to put up with a broken mode because of Gilded Dredgen + Bottom Dollar. It also scores you a golf ball on the first max rank if you absolutely hate grandmasters. It definitely needs a ton of fixes. There are some bugs that can literally lose you the game. Motes should never fall through the floor, and enemy waves should always spawn as intended.

I very much enjoy Gambit but only once I start playing. Rarely do I start up Destiny and say I want to play some Gambit, It's mostly because a friend needs help or there's a triumph I need to complete etc. Honestly, I wouldn't mind if after this season they just slapped an "under construction" jpeg ontop of the Gambit playlist and brought it back in a season or 2 after having a dedicated Gambit team rework the mode.

Gambit needs to be reworked. There needs to restrictions to certain loadouts. EoT, Xenophage, Falling Star titans, etc.

Hey, I wish they would improve gambit too. It has potential, but like you said it has been neglected for too long and now isn't worth more than a pinnacle drop. They should introduce gambit mods and a weekend tournament after they add more maps and fix the bugs.

Most people play to try to get a decent Bottom dollar. Since 120s are about to receive the nerf hammer ; what would be the point ?

Good. Sunset it.

Gambit has been road kill for years now.

No s#%t Sherlock 😂

Neglected? They just changed it... Combination big prime and regular....