[quote]Your decision to have CBMM just creates anger between the pve and pvp community- most of us don’t like crucible but play just to get weapons or complete quests - you know this - and you just create the worst experiences for those just wanting to get in and out...[/quote] Problem is, when they cater to players like you who only occasionally play pvp by enabling SBMM, the rest of us get longer queue times and a lot more lag. Connection quality should always have the highest priority.

Most of us don’t like crucible and only play when we have to..... therefore people that do enjoy it should suffer awful connections so we can have our safe space....

Nah. It's just tearing the few people who still care about crucible apart. Most of the Destiny community gave up on it a while ago. We're just waiting for the rest of y'all to come to your senses...

Should just be removed. If you like pvp...f- off to a real pvp game. This is a PVE game.

[quote]Your decision to have CBMM just creates anger between the pve and pvp community- most of us don’t like crucible but play just to get weapons or complete quests - you know this - and you just create the worst experiences for those just wanting to get in and out... Iron Banner is just one stomp after another - mercies almost every game - six stacks against single players - has your game appealed to so few players you have no other choice than to have things this way? This community is toxic towards each other and it’s completely your own doing... Make us love this game instead of dividing your community like this...[/quote] Do like a vast majority of us and stop playing crucible. If it's not fun don't play. If enough of us quit playing, Bungie will take notice and make a change.

And what would you even want from Iron Banner? Pinnacle Light doesn't matter for shit in PvE, none of the guns are even above average, why are you even playing it?

You're tearing me apart, Lisa!

Not "Most", Some.

No it isn't. Most people don't care. And there's a trend where most people complaining are the ones who are consistently on the lower ends of the skill spectrum

I disagree. All these topics do are get people who are less skilled at pvp an avenue to blame the system instead of getting better. The two major arguments that make no sense to me are (paraphrasing): 1) I have no opportunity to get better by playing against people who are better than me 2) Why does the game match me with people who play in stacks? First one...there will always be someone better than you, therefore if you want to make it so that there are less people better than you than there are those who can blow you out? Practice, stop complaining. Second? How can anyone validate the argument that playing the game with friends is toxic or wrong? From there, lfg exists for this exact reason and if you choose to not use it and play on your own, how can you blame others for grouping up? How can you blame others for increasing their odds at winning? The fact is you cannot, as a result we see posts that blame matchmaking which seemingly causes a divide in the community. [spoiler]One point I can agree on with matchmaking: the “breaking up those teams” consistency needs fixed.[/spoiler]

Cbmm or sbmm, I really don't care. The number 1 single problem is actual match making. Why is it I can get on a team get mercied 5 times in a row, not a problem. Then go one game mercy the other team, breaking up teams to find a better match. How is it when I play solo, I get matched against 4-6 stacks, but when I play with my clan, 6 stack, we get stacked against solo players.

Iron banner is skill based!!!

Crucible is also causing friction in the community because Hunters are OP, Titans are OP. Hunters take no skill and are crutch, and Titans are crayon eating idiots who need Nerfing, and all they do is ape with OP exotics, overshields and shoulder charges, and Hunters go invisible and dodge with OP exotics so it needs removing completely - and Warlocks are, well, Warlocks. You see where I'm going with this? PvE players don't fall out with each other over classes... CBMM is good for the game. People need to understand that.

[quote]Your decision to have CBMM just creates anger between the pve and pvp community- most of us don’t like crucible but play just to get weapons or complete quests - you know this - and you just create the worst experiences for those just wanting to get in and out... Iron Banner is just one stomp after another - mercies almost every game - six stacks against single players - has your game appealed to so few players you have no other choice than to have things this way? This community is toxic towards each other and it’s completely your own doing... Make us love this game instead of dividing your community like this...[/quote] So those who just want to “get in and get out” should be catered to over the players who pretty much PvP all the time? LMAO by your logic PvP players should be catered to in PvE. We should be given 1k and Anarchy for doing next to nothing each week. See how ridiculous that sounds? Just fck the players that actually like the activity the stay in most of the time then.... And one other thing. CBMM has nothing to do with Six Stacks. Ppl have always stacked in this Gamemode. And ever since the Hunt mechanic began to be a thing it’s always had mercies out the ass. It’s a mechanic that punishes uncoordinated play. Go read the Twab about IB. They’re practically telling you to go find a team. It is after all a Team VS Team gamemode.....