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Modificato da zakalwe: 2/26/2020 4:44:25 PM
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Your proposed "legendaries will be shelved" idea is one of your worst "solutions" to date

"The simplest version of how it is going to work is: Legendary weapons will have fixed values for how high they can be infused. Those values will project the weapon’s viable-in-end-game lifespan and we think that lifespan is somewhere between 9 and 15 months." https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/48758 - This game is about loot for many of us, first and foremost. We spend our time chasing specific weapons and rolls that will suit our playstyles, things that will make the game enjoyable for US to play. Many of us don't even chase meta weapons and perks, but more specific things that suit our specific playstyles. We spend a LOT of time chasing things and refining loadouts to find styles of play that WE enjoy. And yes, I get that the paragraphs above the one I quoted specifically talk about the desire to create powerful weapons that won't create issues in future, but your overall point seems to be referring to ALL legendary weapons. How about, instead, you create a third class of weapons that are time specific. Specific legendary weapons that people know will be finite that you can make powerful and interesting without concern for the future. Leave the things we have now alone, we earnt them, we enjoy them. Rebalance them so weapons below can have more room if you have to but so at least they're still viable and not just taken from us. If I'm wrong about the overall idea of this applying to all legendary weapons, and if you mean this specifically for a certain TYPE of legendary weapons like "pinnacles then fine, but if you mean to lockout any of the stuff we've already earned... there has to be a better solution. - [b]This is from another forum where a poster responded to this idea:[/b] "It's weird; in the same article he talked about understanding how weapons in games often feel like an extension of you...his big idea is to add expiration dates to weapons you have found to be an extension of you. I understand it may be a bit of an inconvenience for the balance team to have to worry about old weapons. I understand old weapons can still be used in PvP and such. That's not my problem. Let me use what I feel like I can perform best with in content where it really matters, you know?" And I fully agree. - Also, the post itself in the link is quite unfocused and unclear. If they mean locking out all legendaries after a time, even random rolls, then "that lifespan is somewhere between 9 and 15 months" isn't even true. What if I only get the roll Iv'e been chasing with a month or even a week left? Unless they hand out this stuff right away or are only talking about weapons tied to quests that are very quick to obtain, this "9-15 months" doesn't seem like a realistic idea.

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  • Modificato da indo: 3/3/2020 12:13:30 PM
    [quote]I understand it may be a bit of an inconvenience for the balance team to have to worry about old weapons.[/quote] Is this really the case? This balance of what they are talking about? Kill clip will stay kill clip on the same not expired weapon. If I have a season X spare rations with kill clip and in season Y the gun is expired and have to get a new spare rations with kill clip this doesn't change a thing at all. The only things that could matter is old pinnacles with exotic like perks which we put a lot of effort in to get. These guns can be retrieved from your collection. Will these guns which took some players multiple seasons to get also get an expiration date? I hope not. Bungie assumes it will move players towards different guns. But this will never ever be the case. Meta will stay meta and players will grind for these meta guns.

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  • Modificato da vvaldd: 2/27/2020 4:49:29 PM
    I liked the part where they were portraying the situation that new and better loots were basically being put on the backburner because of all the testing of old weapons in new content was too much of a resource sink. First of all, you have been gathering data for years. You know how perks and weapon types/subtypes perform by this point. You know damn well how effective something you make is going to be pretty much out of the box. The perk pool and the way weapons feel havent changed all that much, so you should already know what youre designing around when making new content. Secondly, if the team is spread too thin to be making new and cool loot to chase, maybe pull some resources and ideas from EV and actually put them in the game?

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    • I wonder if Bungie will ‘shelve’ this idea seeing all the uproar from the community (minus the content creators who seem to be happy with it).

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    • where’s the mf bungie response

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      • What pisses me off the most about this is that guns that I really like that I use a lot and have fully masterworked and have a high kill count on will eventually become useless and I'll have to start over again with the same gun, just a newer version of it that won't have a cap on it. So let's say I have a gun that has 10,000 kills on it and it eventually reaches the cap so I have to stop using it. Now I have to get a new gun and it will have zero kills on it. I love showing of guns that have lots of kills on them. The kill trackers are one of the best features in this game and now eventually those guns will be useless and we will have to put them away in out vaults and we won't be able to show them off any more. Awesome idea bungo, you guys are seriously -blam!-ing idiots.

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      • Let’s just take a moment to appreciate over 900 people all bumping this Even if you disagree, this is remarkable

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        • I made a post about this [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/255353746]here [/url]if you want to read the whole thing, but basically my criticism is that the current RNG of the game is too harsh to put a time limit on acquiring god rolls. If they do not fundamentally rework loot in some way to accommodate the new system of rotating gear, people will not be able to get the weapons they want before they just become obsolete.

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        • Bungie seriously going to ignore this thread? its over 1000 posts in their own damn forum.

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          • Most disappointing news I've ever seen from Destiny. The one thing I cannot be flexible with are the weapons I use. I just cant do it. I have spent 100's of hours farming the exact weapons that fit my playstyle and 100's more farming matching Y2 armor setups. And now those weapons will be useless??? So the perfect Perfect Paradox I just got is going to be capped??? The HOURS i invested into having a weapon for later is not gonna have a "later"????? Seriously, why am I gonna continue playing if the weapons I have spent HUNDREDS OF HOURS farming are only gonna be showpieces?? Wow... just wow!! Boy I thought Armor 2.0 was bad. I guess there was a "hold my beer" moment??? Holy smokes. I'm floored rt now.

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          • Modificato da DeathPony07: 2/28/2020 11:58:03 AM
            Literally the dumbest idea for a looter shooter ever. Can you imagine Gearbox Software telling you that all your legendaries will be completely useless in future content? They wouldn't because they're not completely insane.

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          • The idea of weapons be retired is the dumbest idea they’ve ever come up with! This better never become a reality!

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            • Bungie responds to other high voted threads but not this one, WHY? Luke why?.

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            • It is an insult. Lots of trouble and time to get weapons with rolls that match your playstyle and preference. And not to mention the grind to masterwork weapons and armors. If they do this why even bother with grind for a preferred roll, it will be useless anyways. The same applies for the loot from crucible gambit and strikes specific weapons. What the hell are they thinking? I mean so many shitty drops with rolls that are useless and don't make sense and when you finally have a couple of variations that make sense for your style, they become useless after some time?!? Are they mad? Basically the grind will be worse than now as you have to start over after a while. Good going Bungie. I believe it is a way to get players moving on to different games.......

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              • Is this one of those.. you had to be there moment's? 🤦‍♂️

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                • I will quit this game if they make me shelve my favorite legendaries. I use then FOR A REASON. I prefer them to all other guns! If you give me a new gun in a new season that is actually GOOD, I’ll use it. Otherwise I want to keep using my favorites. Why in the hell would they take that away?! This is the most -blam!- thing I’ve ever heard.

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                  • If they would just remove this proposed I would again be looking forward to the future of this game. I doubt they will though, as it appears that they only consider the opinions of content creators. It doesn't matter how many of the rest of us complain, they will not listen. Look at how quickly they changed the artifact the power bullshit after content creators complained.

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                  • What's funnier are the people happy for trials...happy for what? When all that loot you grinded for in trials has a shelf life now and the only thing you have to show for it is recycled armor and possibly a title, same goes for future pinnacle/raid weapons. Honestly its Taken King all over again and they wonder why the player base dropped back then.

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                    • Basically theres absolutely no reason to play anymore, not if everything we collect just end up "expiring"

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                    • Yet another nail on the coffin for d2. Everything is a total waste of time to the point of being a bad joke now.

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                      • Agreed. I’m out if this happens.

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                      • Couldn’t believe what I was reading. This is a terrible decision in my opinion. This will lose all incentive for me to grind for a specific roll on a weapon, only for it to be useless in about a year. I truly hope they rethink this, because that honestly makes no sense to me. It shouldn’t matter how many weapons are already in the game, if I like a weapon and I want to use it for how ever long, I should be able too. I’m sorry, but that is just unbelievable to me.

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                        • I laughed when they clearly stated that they were gonna remove weapons we have, only to be able to reintroduce them a couple season later.

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                          • i already said it in another thread. If they will do this i will stop playing the game. I dont see any sense playing a loot shooter if the loot is soon gone.

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