It allways suprised me how Bungie came up with such a good gameplay core, but allways manage to fck up their own achievements. Hey, gyes, I bet you have EA or Epic emploeys in your team! They sabotagin you thing! Sad story tho :( Now when you see a player in some cool armor, or with some gun, title or something you cant say: "wow dis dude is good in pvp", or "hes good in raids", or solo nightfalls or whatever... The only thing you can tell in these cases:"oh, another nolifer with nothing better to do in hes life".

I don't know if it's just me but I keep getting smashed in iron banner.. level advantage sucks, lord of wolves sucks, one eyed mask sucks and the quest some what sucks (it is what it is). Just seems to be more sweaty and toxic then comp right now.

I fully agree with this. I LOVE iron banner so much, but I can play every night after work and still not complete all the bounties on one character. Of course none of them even dropped armor so far so.... not even sure why I’m trying for this.

I'd rather spend 12 hours straight farming for an Infinity Pistol in Borderlands 2 when the drop rate was bugged at 0.037% than play that cesspool known as Iron Banner.

My main complaint is there seems to be something weird going on with the matchmaking. It seems to me and many others like it's taking players who are highly active and matching them with a bunch of semi-active players. I simply will not play under these conditions. There's a noticeable difference and I know something funny is going on. I will not tolerate being expected to carry s*** players. I know what my abilities are now in Banner, and I know where I stand. I generally destroy everything in Iron banner and it's been quite the opposite this time around and there's some weird things happening. [b]many of my friends are having the same experience. they're usually the top player on their team on a losing team of really really scrubby blueberries that you can tell do not play the game often at all. The other team: always a 4-6 stack every game.[/b] This is the first I've seen it this bad. [b]The frustration of leading your entire team, and in many cases, the entire game in kills, captures, and everything possible, and you [b][u]still[/u][/b] lose....makes me NOT want to play the game at all... Or purchase future installments of the game. Why would I continue to put up with something this aggravating? Let alone fork over more money to the title causing the frustration[/b]? I literally feel like I'm being punished for being an avid player. Bungie really needs to figure some of this dumb s*** out. They're not going to have Activision as a scapegoat going forward. Do not waste your time for Swarm of the Raven. it's not worth it; it's not needed; all you need to do is get an outrageous Fortune from vanguard playlist with Spikes. I'm finishing off bounties that I already put work into but after that I'm boycotting this b*******.

The only way the quest make sense is if the armor was guaranteed to drop master worked and with enhanced perks of your choice

I went into iron banner one time before i bought forsaken. I was rank 20, everyone was rank 50. This was during the iron banner free trail whatever. My auto rifle did just 1 damage per bullet , the enemy one shotted me. I have not played iron banner since. And i won't. iron banner defines pay to win.

I completed the first step. Iron Truage boots? Didn’t we already get this iteration of gear? Year 1 maybe?

Absolutely, the grind has just become tedious. It's not fun having to get final blows with nades and melee as a hunter and then have to get final blows with a sniper, an auto (straight shit in PvP) scout and a -blam!-ing sword. On top of that, I've gained in maybe 200+ IB tokens and gotten 7 -blam!-ing gauntlets and 3 pairs of legs which I already have. Seriously bungie this is -blam!-ing stupid. I'm gonna put in over 40 hours by the end of the weekend and I doubt I'll have a full IB set. What the -blam!-?

The worst thing is getting put up against a six stack sweat team every damn game.

I think "bottom line" isn't what you're looking for, there is just "a line" in Destiny now. For a large majority of the community we participate in about 75% of the content. We do our weekly chores, weapon quests here or there, have fun....then the line hits, where you as a 'normal gamer' can no longer participate. The attitude now is "well, just don't play it", which is fine...until your audience is no longer playing your game.

they got IB right in D1 win or lose the rewards just came raining down the end of a match. Yeah RNG was a cruel mistress but the rewards were given to you for playing as little or as much as you wanted...PERIOD!