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When You Argue that Cores Are Not A Problem.....

....You're basically doing the same to a PVE player as telling a PVP player to[b] [i]"Shut up and play the meta." [/i] [/b] ...and allowing Bungie to get away with the same as telling a PVP player[b] [i]"We have no plans to re-balance the sandbox.....ever." [/i] [/b] I've tried to explain the issue of build variety from a PVE perspective, and some of you clearly either don't understand it....or don't accept it. Content to run builds of only the pinnacle (meta) weapons. So now I'm trying to make the point from a PvP perspective. One of the biggest reasons PvP players complain about playing the meta in the Crucible is because: [i]Rigid meta reduce build variety and play style variety. Forcing everyone to play the same weapons and the same style, or pay a competitive penalty. [/i] They occur because the combination of the sandbox, map designs and game modes give one particular loadout and one particular play style a major advantage over everything else. Well the core economy does the same thing by limiting the ability to infuse gear. [b] [i]BY DENYING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE CORES NECESSARY TO INFUSE IN A MANNER PROPORTIONATE TO TIME INVESTMENT, BUNGIE IS BASICALLY FUNNELING EVERYONE INTO PLAYING THE SAME PINNACLE WEAPONS, AND PLAY STYLES ENFORCED BY THOSE WEAPONS. [/i][/b] Or else pay a power----play---penalty. Can a PvP player just "shut up and play the meta"? Sure. If he or she is willing to accept a narrow and limited play experience. Can a PVE player just "shut up and play the pinnacle weapon builds"? Sure.....but once again..... ...if he or she is willing to accept a narrow and limited play experience. Because Bungie has sabotaged their own game to the point that they are murdering what little inherent depth the game has.

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  • This might be the one and only time I can totally agree with you.

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    • Have Prime Engrams be able to be dismantled as opposed to decrypted and you receive 5 enhancement cores. Problem solved.

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    • Not sure why everyone is ridiculing the OP for using cores the exact way they are meant to be used. Who gives a shit if you hoard your materials, doesn’t mean there’s not an issue for others. People talk so highly of this games community, yet 75% of responses/comments on the forums or reddit are just name calling like petulant children. To OP, forgive me because I may have missed it if answered already, but do you use the finest matterweave consumables? I agree that the infusion could be a lot better, but I don’t know that removing enhancement cores from it is the answer. People complained about infusion being meaningless in D2 Y1, so Bungie adjusted it. I’m sure if enough people complain, Bungie will do it again. They never really seem to stick to their guns on much.

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      • There are plenty of cores in game though, and easy ways to get them, finest matterweaves- literally only for getting cores, Spider, sells cores for a stupid price but worthwhile if you play the game more than once a week. Dismantling year 1 masterworks grant you 7 at once Not to mention they're adding more ways to get them, I understand peoples irritation earlier on, but it's gotten so much better. Why are these things not taken into account?

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        • Just a thought: I get the occasional core from turning in token to Ana Bray. I have never gotten a core from turning in to Zavala nor Shaxx. In fact, I've stopped pulling bounties from either one because the token build-up is real, and the rewards are pointless. If I could turn in tokens with a realistic hope of getting cores, my token stacks would dry up, fast. I know this doesn't resolve the underlying issue with cores, but it would help kill two birds with one stone. It might also help reinvigourate the factions. Heck, get Banshee-44 in on the act, too!

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        • I make 80 Enhancement Cores per hour by purchasing items from spider then selling to appropriate NPCs, then dismantling items. You get a shit ton of other supplies in the process. Play the game more and stop begging for handouts, its so -blam!-ing sad, PS, git gud

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          • Wow. Quite the analysis. Comparing the Core economy to the PVP meta. You could just make better infusion choices. This game is a cake walk. There are literally two activities that require max power. When Bungie said they weren't removing them from infusion it just backed up all of us saying you're doing it wrong. I roll with about 100-150 cores. Sometimes I spend some, sometimes I don't. But I've never had to make the decision based on not having enough.

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          • There’s so many sources if you can’t get enough for an infusion maybe you should start choosing when to infuse strategically instead of infusing for a 3 power level difference This isn’t vanilla D2, you can’t infuse for the hell of it

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            • All these people saying cores drop like rain. I went two months without getting any. It’s still tied to RNG.

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              • Modificato da lCertifiedl: 2/5/2019 11:01:07 AM
                Still think the argument is poor and don't see what the big issue is. Playing the meta and cores have nothing to do with each other at all, your not forced to do either to play the game or complete anything. If you play 2 hours a week your not going to get much apart from levels if you play some more and play efficiently you should have loads. Bungie said they wanted people to choose what they masterwork and level which is fine in my eyes, loads of ways to get cores for just playing the game. Being careful with your mats is a part of most RPGs but apparently that's a hard concept to grasp. To keep you whiny bunch happy they should give out a cores for each milestones completed and be done, but you'd still complain that's wasn't enough.

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                • [quote]BY DENYING PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE CORES NECESSARY TO INFUSE IN A MANNER PROPORTIONATE TO TIME INVESTMENT, BUNGIE IS BASICALLY FUNNELING EVERYONE INTO PLAYING THE SAME PINNACLE WEAPONS, AND PLAY STYLES ENFORCED BY THOSE WEAPONS.[/quote] This is the most accurate thing about this game right now. It feels like it has more or less always been this way to some degree for one reason or another.

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                • Pretty much stopped playing. Leveling gear takes 99999 different types of made up fairy dust. So -blam!-ing stupid.

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                • Why are you infusing gear before getting items with a power level of at least 635? Seriously, I just played in my favorite set of armor unless I did something that REQUIRED a higher power level and then I'd throw on my highest power level shit while I did that activity and then switch back. Once, I started getting power level gear above 635, I actually considered to infuse gear. And only one or two pieces of gear that I felt really needed upgraded. I am a very casual player. I have about 510 hours across 2 characters (I haven't played my hunter since Curse) and I currently have a power level in my preferred gear of over 643. My character isn't wearing his normal helmet right now. I run with Ace of Spades, Crimson, or Horror Story in my kinetic; Loaded Question, Borealis, or Telsto in my energy; and Thunderlord, Zenoiba rocket launcher, Crooked Fang, or an Avalanche in my heavy. All of these Legendary weapons are Masterworked... all 5 of them. I have 6 pieces of Masterwork armor. and with all of that done, I still have: 60 Cores left. And I have over 1000 shards. I can sell 30 shards a day for 2 Cores at Spider. I'm sorry... I'm a casual player and even I don't have a problem keeping cores. The problem is you wasted them to give yourself a 5 point power level upgrade on each item instead of waiting until you hit end-game and then upgrading the items by power levels point increases of over 20. In short: save your cores until you need them. Pick the armor pieces and weapons you are most likely to use and upgrade them first. Then pick and choose other pieces as you have cores available. And if I needed more cores, I have tons of planetary resources, over 750 Crucible tokens (and I hate Crucible), almost 800 Vanguard tokens, and about 900 gunsmith materials. I could burn through all of that shit and get more cores and shards from breaking that stuff down. Seriously, if a casual player like me doesn't have a problem staying in cores, what's your problem? Seriously you have more time on one of your characters than my 2 combined. You wasted your resources.

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                  • Good luck convincing the addicts who seem to only play this game the rest of us were on board months ago

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                  • I have plenty of cores I can give you some I do these things called spider bounties which take no more that 30 min to do all of them and I get plenty

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                    • Just hold off on infusing until your max or near max. There's no reason to beside just throwingcores away. cores already drop [i]in abundance[/i]. You just need to stop wasting them

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                      • Cores aren’t the problem. [spoiler] Your shit RNG is the problem. [/spoiler] I get enough cores weekly to get done what I need to do.

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                      • Cores are not a problem. And there is no PVE meta. Sure, sure lfg groups want to do last wish with cluster bombs but that's not a meta. Using pvp as an example really doesn't work in favour of your argument. Just look on youtube for the number of people that ask their subscribers for loadout suggestions. Mike/Geekermon does it for pvp. Esoterickk does it for pve. At the end of the day, this game, like many others, asks you to manage a relatively rare resource intelligently. Ask yourself why you're failing at that.

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                        • Takes a 2-3 cores to infuse damn near over 20 cores to masterwork a piece of gear. Certain bounties give you 1 core you'll occasionally get a core or 2 from dismantling gear and if you dismantle somthing that's masterworked you'll get a random 5-7 cores back you can get a core to drop if you have masterwork weaves which are also a random drop from dismantling gear. So yeah are their avenues to earn some cores sure but when the cost offsets the earning of them there's a problem.

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                        • fools cores are cool they just need to be more plentiful

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                        • But i have an abundance of them, if you stop using them the second you get a piece of gear a couple light higher you wouldn’t have a problem

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                        • If you blow all of your monthly wage (assuming you are employed) on beer and hookers, do you ask your employer for more?

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                          • #StopWhining

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                            • I dont even have a worry with cores anymore. Start doing all of those scrapper bounties and all of the core reward Spider bounties. And use your mats and tokens at world vendors. Especially mercury and Mars.

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                            • I still have no idea why you people are constantly out of cores. They drop all the time...from many sources. I have like 53 of them. I have a friend who has over 120 and ge hasnt played in nearly a month. Youre just using them without thinking.

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