Cozmo quit your job you are just as clueless as the developers

do this in competitive/trials but not in regular pvp...

So you're saying that if my isp sucks (i.e. not a thing that depends on me or my playstyle) you're going to ban me from a portion of a game i payed money to buy (vanilla D2, yr1 dlcs' and yr2 Expansion with the annual pass yr2) ? In this case: 1) Separate pvp from pve...i.e. 2 different games. 2) Refund me for the game modes YOU decide i cannot enter (i.e. 33% of total cost as the game is divided into 3 different modes, pve, pvp and pvpve). 3) Instead of punishing players that just play the game, and have no fault if their isp can't cope with your stone age p2p shit, get off your fat arses and chase all the cheaters that roam around the crucible undisturbed. This is just a load of shit, no videogame company in their right mind would think of banning players because of their connections...only you at Bungie could've come up with an moron idea like this. ...I wonder if this is legal...

-blam!- you and your forges later bungo you will be remembered for halo and thats about it peace

Fûçking comical yet i expect nothing less from this shit show. Lemme see if i get this straight.... Ban players who have technical issues yet your game is riddled with technical issues. When will you get banned for being an incompetent company. Too bad all the talent left this place. Edit: So you expect players to spend $100+ on this game and if their connection doesnt live up to your shitty servers they are deemed not worthy to play in a potion of the game they paid for? 2week+ bans because your company cant get pvp right? Wow... just wow. Now you are forcing players to upgrade internet speeds. A while new level of pathetic

So your saying that us who live in an area with only 1 network opinion available to us and a slower connection at that will be banned? Well I call that discrimination so you go right ahead and ban us cause we do have the right to also then file a discrimination lawsuit against you!!!

I am now a casual player, I'm not investing alot of time or money into this game. You've made this game purposely grindy and not in a fun way. If I could get a refund i would. The solo player is doomed, I will try my best to get as many people as possible to leave this game.

You are becoming a joke!!!! You are going to band people for bad connection!!@ when you only provide a player to player connection is an out right joke!! Let me tell you something I live in Massachusetts which is in the northeast in case you don't know!! Ever since black armory dropped me and my to brothers and a crap ton of people in the northeast were getting fig baboon and grape error codes!!! Game writers including Forbes and game rant reported it and you finally try to fix it!! And it is still happening!!! I have had Comcast to my house 5 times and they said it wasn't them and then I read it was an issue between you and comcast!!! So you want to band people for your choice to use shitty peer to peer connection is a blatant F$ck$ng joke!! And let me tell you something I have 150 mbs. With Comcast and hardwired cat7 to a $300 dollar net gear nighthawk xr5900 and are still getting connection to bungee error codes!! So in my case I bought a 300 dollar router to fix connection issues not to mention the cost of cat7 cable and all pre-order dlcs for destiny do you know how much money that is!!! So your band warning pops up once on my screen I quit!! And anybody that reads this please post if this sh$t is happening to you to!!!! Peace out!!! Contacting destiny servers!!!! Wait what's this contacting destiny servers what's this baboon no wait it can't be grape oh wait what's this fig!!

Wow... Unbelievably fúcking stupid decision to ban people based on connection because you won’t change your archaic p2p servers to dedicated servers. I usually get annoyed by the bítching on these forums but you guys deserve it for this decision. I just can’t believe this incompetence. Who actually thought this would be well received by the community?

I cant believe the majority of your company gets like 3 weeks off for the holidays. I feel like most adults get Christmas day and MAYBE Christmas eve off. Nice work if you can get it.

Hey Cozmo! Tell management this DLC is rubbish and we’re sick and tired of the grind! The amount of boring fetch and kill quest steps to progress on unlocking the forges, and then again, to get the frames completed are just plain silly. There’s zero (0) satisfaction on pursuing any of those steps by any reasonable player and you’re effectively burning out your player base! If that was intended congrats! Mission accomplished! If you intend on keeping some of us around I advise toning down the grind or coming up with some fun and interesting quest steps that engage the player and bring some satisfaction upon completing it. You still have time to make changes before more ppl leave! To illustrate: I just spent 2 hours of my playtime planet hopping trying to complete the damn “heroic” public events. When the event would pop either nobody else was around to help or some lvl 20 player would screw up the heroic activation mechanic because he/she didn’t know better. That was frustrating! But no MORE frustrating than realizing the steps weren’t over and the grind was still on!!! Seriously, whoever designed that crap, aproved it and said it was good and fun content needs a job review ASAP! Here are some pointers for you: 1. The grind is out of scope and proportion. Takes too much time and too much backtracking to accomplish anything. 2. The recycle and reuse of old content was too much. You spend more time playing old stuff than the new stuff (specifically the forges I haven’t done the raid yet) 3. The introduction of more economic bottlenecks are also getting old and boring. Having to farm “fetch and kill” quests to get materials and tokens to get new pursuits and frames makes the grind worse! The game economy is getting too convoluted as it is stop inflating and complicating things by introducing new tokens to every new content! It need to be streamlined and improved not worsened! 4. Stop increasing the power level! This a very old MMO’ish trick that is getting out of use. The power creep ends up making old content irrelevant and the new content frustrating due to the powergate! Coupled with the terrible infusing system we have in game you infuriate most players that spent months gearing up and finetuning their characters equipment by forcing them to use whatever higher lvl new drop they can get their hands on. Vertical progression systems are a thing of the past! Find new ways to implement this RPG aspect in the game. 5. There is no story and no context to anything we’re doing and therefore the whole thing is meaningless. We went from a great, motivating and captivating story background in Forsaken to this? Disappointing. Overall the forges are an OK activity, if not inspiring or groundbreaking. They’re fast, properly difficult and there’s matchmaking for them. But the steps to unlock them are way too much and way too boring and this mentality needs changing. I’m still invested (and have invested $) in the game but crap like black armoury can kill your IP sooner than you’d think. A concerned player!

I have 200 down, 20 up connection with buttery smooth >10ms ping >2ms jitter never any packet loss on a Nighthawk. I had 2 disconnects just today for seemingly no reason at all. Banning people for connection issues on a P2P network is just plain retardation. If you want to blame individuals for disconnects and lag, you need to have dedicated servers first. P2P is a total crapshoot.

This week at Bungie, we are banning you. To celebrate Christmas, from now on, If our system deems your connection unworthy, or if it just stutters twice in a row, we will take away content you have paid for, for 2 weeks, and probably permanently. We will not implement dedicated servers to mitigate this. We are passing the costs and blame on you. There will be no refunds, no replacement, no appeal process, or even an apology from us. You are on your own. Next week, Iron Banner will return and, as stated above, you will not be able to participate in it, because it is PvP. It will include an armour set that you can’t earn (pictured with the obligatory non-representative female model quota for virtue-signaling), which hopefully you will appreciate because we still refuse to increase the abysmally small vault size, and 2 guns brought back from year 1, because we couldn’t be bothered reskinning guns, let alone introduce new ones. For the few of you who will participate, we would like to remind you it is pay-to-win. If you have paid $100 for the game + 2 DLCs, we are locking your light level to the artificially paywalled number 400, yet you will face players with 650 light level, nullifying any chance of you winning, though we will not stop you from going in and getting destroyed as there is no in-game warning. Have fun. Finally, another forge in a recycled location debuts, and we hope that the 10% of annual pass holders who have grinded our tedious, repetitive content for months are excited to finally revisit the same destinations in our most uninspired DLC yet. For the other 90% of you who have bought the annual pass but are below 600 light, tough luck. Get back on the hamster wheel that is our outdated content and maybe in 2 months of boring grind you will be able to finally grind this also boring content and find out how shitty it really is when it is too late. That is all, folks. Happy Hollidays/Hanukkah/Namaste/etc.

[quote]The Dawning is still going strong. Ovens are roaring in the Tower and across the solar system as Guardians cook up sweet treats and deliver them to hungry vendors. [/quote] You know, the vendors wouldn't be hungry if they had an inventory to sell. I keep waiting to see a going out of business sign propped up in the corner on the gunsmith counter that has blinking lights. "Going out of Business, everything must go! Half off for the big ole whopping 2 mods in our inventory." Edit: Oh, any word on the issue being stuck in spectating loading into the tower and when you use fast travel?

I guarantee that the ones complaining about the connection bans are the same people who complain about 'red bar warriors' and ghost bullets...

So my ISP, which is painfully slow due to where I live will cause me to get banned from pvp for 2 weeks then repeat itself Basically you lock people out of content due to something they have zero control over Nice one,

Mayhem is not fun thanks to Blade Barrage/Shards combo, just saying.