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12/8/2018 2:37:44 PM
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This is how Bungie made playing Destiny a chore.
Now this is coming from a D1 veteran. Playing Destiny has been my hobby for a few years.
So it’s sad for me to say this but playing D2 has become a chore. It wasn’t always that way.
In D1 I started playing on PS4 and after a year I also started playing on Xbox after Rise of Iron.
When I started on Xbox I played through everything on one character then on the other two characters I leveled them up to 400 just playing the crucible. I could play what I wanted and still be leveling up.
The milestones in D2 are a bad idea. I have to play 3 Gambit matches. I have to play three strikes. I have to play 5 crucible matches. I have to play the night fall. I have to do all the dreaming city stuff.
See where I’m going. I have to do those things or I won’t level up. Leveling up is important because you need to be a high enough level to play the raid.
What Black Armory did was expose this bad design. It was a very bad decision to block access to a dlc people paid for behind a level requirement to start.
This is why the community is angry. Me included. We have to play old content for a couple of weeks to start this.
Now I have to go do all those milestones to get high enough to play this dlc. That takes time. And I can’t spend that time leveling up by playing nothing but crucible or strikes. I got to do those milestones. This game has now become a chore instead of something fun. I already have a job.
I was also looking forward to new crucible maps and new strikes but none of that in this dlc.
Hey maybe I’ll get some new armor or weapons from the vendors. Nope. Only thing to do is chase some weapons and grind some more after grinding for three months to climb 220 points.
If this is the future of Destiny then this has got me considering not playing Destiny anymore. That is the first time I ever thought that.
Just thought I’d share this feedback with Bungie so they can understand why people are angry with this game and what they might consider changing in the future.
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13 RisposteI rolled my eyes the second I saw that the power level was jumping 50 levels with Black Armory, then 50 more levels with each of the next two annual pass releases. So here we go again, another 150 levels to grind. 95% of which comes from old content. Fighting ridiculous RNG every step of the way, praying for the slots you need and dreading all the inevitable redundant drops. Did anyone really want that? I'm actually completely fine with the whole content trickle strategy. But 50 more levels of pounding out the same old weeklies only to have half of your rewards drop in the worst possible slots.....not fun.
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Yep. I couldn't agree more. I also hate the chore of every time I log in, I have to go to the tower...then to the tangled shores. Takes 10 minutes before I can actually play an activity and I can't play the ones I want to. I have to play gambit, the strikes and worst of all, the daily story missions. I'd prefer to just play crucible and raid every now and then.
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Hell yeah. This game does -blam!-in suck. And the community. Wow. Doesn’t even help. Exp this exp that. Lol. I soloed throne. But man I can’t wait until bl3 comes out. All I’m waiting for
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6 RisposteI've always remained positive about Destiny 2 until this forge. This release of new paid content being ENDgame is just WRONG. It should have been INgame content that most everyone could have played immediately - levels similar to strikes starting at 540 power. Casual players Matter - months of grinding power level followed by more power level grinding of the same stuff before new content can be played. And what about playing for fun - the forge (IMHO) is not fun at any power level. I just wish there was another shooter game that was compelling: not: fortnite, warfare, grand theft auto, battlefield 5 , etc. Maybe it is just break time - come back refreshed next year.
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13 RisposteJust grinding for an arbitrary number that has no real meaning. It’s not like being 650 makes you any stronger against level 300 enemies than it does being 600. A pointless grind to extend playing time, nothing more. I understand ‘content is hard’, but I want to grind for armour, weapons, exotics, sparrows, ships, shaders, emotes etc. Add more of that stuff to chase (a lot more) and make it less about just reaching a random number so you have entry to an activity.
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1 RispondiWhen I saw the Blind Well in the Dreaming City and found out there were 3 tiers (4 of you count T3 heroic) I figured I could team up and play the first by the time I got to DC. I didn’t expect to be able to play the others until I leveled up a bit more. And that’s the way it worked. Same with CoO and the Forge in D1. It made sense. I saw there were several forges coming out in BA. I figured I would be able to start with the first and work to the others (maybe one each week until I was fully leveled). That’s not the way this one worked and it doesn’t make any sense at all. I can’t imagine who is sitting around in planning meetings coming up with this stuff. Even worse, there has to be some agreement because it was released that way. Why would they think players would be okay with not being able to jump straight into new content after 3 months of the same thing over and over?
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5 Risposte[quote]... and after a year I also started playing on Xbox after Rise of Iron. When I started on Xbox I played through everything on one character then on the other two characters I leveled them up to 400 just playing the crucible. I could play what I wanted and still be leveling up. .[/quote] You started your true journey during rise of iron after everyone else did the grind for two years.😂😂😂 No wonder you have such a diluted reality of what Destiny has always been.😂😂😂
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Amen! When I unlocked the first forge and realized I had to leave my new content just to level up, I was very disappointed. I just didn't feel like doing it, I didn't want to play. I played anyways and did not even enjoy it. So much work, for so little. We should be getting a powerful engram for each time we reset our level, you know when you get that boring eververse one. Heck, I've been grinding all week for hours just trying to get a more powerful warlock bond that won't drop! this is ridiculous.
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I honestly didn't mind the forsaken grind - it was fun - but now with the new content, that's all this game is - a constant, never-ending grind - now that the new light level is 650, I am immediately weakened when I play anything now...I had two weeks at 600 and then it's back to the same nonsense...only this time with nerfed weapons...
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2 RisposteThis artificial grind is a result of a worrying trend where game developers and publishers are catering to streamers and content creators at every turn. The destiny franchise and sea of thieves are good examples of that. Its gotten to the point where these 1% privileged people have too much power over game developers and publishers. They are basically level gating the vast majority in order to not upset their precious content creators wich we all know provides them with free marketing. They dont want their precious streamers to race through the content because thats bad for their free marketing. Before social media platforms like youtube facebook we never had bullshit situations like this. This one of the main reasons why i 110% support article 13 on the gaming content creator side. These streamers and content creators needs to be knocked down from their high pedestal of influencial marketing power.
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1 RispondiYou are not the only one who feels this way, most of my clanmates and myself have decided to stop playing after Black Armory has been launched.We were waiting for some feedback vefore purchasing rhe AP and honestly, this is a step on the wrong direction.I have no desire to keep grinding by repeating the same old activities that I've doing for the last 15 moths plus the Forge ( nothing special ) I watched the new Raid on a 25 minute run and didn't like it at all.....so thank you Bungie for giving me four years of Destiny but ( thank God ) I dont care any longer for this game, time to move on , hopefully a lot of players will still enjoy the grind and keep this franchise alive
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3 RisposteD1 player too and love this game, but you nailed it. The milestone circle on Tues & if I get a bad drop in now pissed as opportunities are limited. If the forges were of progressive diffuculty, it would have helped so I could use the NEW activity to help me level..... ah well.
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1 RispondiYou nailed it. I haven't played destiny since I realised I had to grind more old crap to be able to play the new dlc. To much grinding way to much.
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4 RisposteI uninstalled it today, even though I own the annual pass. It's just not fun anymore and I do not want to be forced into quests or activities like gambit or cruicible that aren´t fun at all. Destiny 2 now is low costs content. Quite apart from the unfair loot system. There are games on the market where you can play for fun not frustration. I also left my Clan today.
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3 RisposteModificato da Atoms_777: 12/9/2018 10:00:44 PMexactly. i [i][b]hate[/i][/b] gambit and being forced to play it for power drop is agitating.
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12 RisposteThere are many games that lock endgame or even parts of maps behind higher level and make you grind the game until you’ve leveled up or unlocked your toon enough to tackle those areas. This is not a new way of playing a video game 🤷♂️
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4 RisposteI disagree. Ultimately the reason why your light level lags is because your not raiding. This goes the same for me also. If you don't raid then you have to do weekly milestones which can be draining. But that is a choice made by the player and not Bungie. The problem with posts like these is that it blames developers and not users for not allocating a sufficient amount time doing content that will push their light level higher. That's not fair.
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4 RisposteModificato da BC1 Edge: 12/9/2018 4:35:36 PMThe solstice activity ruined the game for me. Smashed that out on all three characters. Did those stupid missions over and over again for what an armour set that looks great but now is overtaken. Also for me, the best part of D1 was the special exotics. I remember going on YouTube and watching people’s reaction when they got gally, it was awesome and then when it finally dropped for me. Or when you completed a raid for the first time the whole fireteam would be screaming. Now it’s like “done, tower everyone?” Also paid $50 for the annual pass, not sure what I got for $50 but doesn’t seem worth it.
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[quote][b][i]The numbers Mason, what do they mean?![/i][/b][/quote]
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7 RisposteThree strikes of people using the same subclass. The heartbreak when it is arc burn and some loser if using a solar subclass.
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6 RisposteModificato da Legion: 12/9/2018 9:12:27 PMWeird. Weekly reset drops. I finish a few milestones then play whatever I want, I move up a of couple levels. I finish a few more milestones then play whatever I want, I move up of couple more levels. I finally finish all of milestones then play whatever I want, and I move up a couple of more levels. I keep playing whatever I want, and I move up a couple of more levels. Then Its time for the next reset. I know RNG has a lot to do with lvling, but I feel I have some pretty shïtty RNG most of the time. This coming from a guy who doesnt raid (other than a free raid chest each week, and completing “challenging enemy” bounties) or nightfall or play comp PvP; I don’t find it too difficult to lvl up at all. It’s not instant, but I dont expect it to be. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ To each their own.
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It ain't great. I'll play Gambit and Crucible until I hit 650 and then stop again.
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I don't mind the grind. Destiny has always been a grind. But the repetition is very stale. Same bounties, same enemies same result. I'm still chasing stuff at a random pace and that's fine with me. But please change up the bounties and methods of getting new gear.
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my friends list has been empty in D2 since about Wednesday. Maybe a lot of people agree
