Losers be losing. Criers be crying. Little baby still got poo poo pants.

Seems awful funny when people come on here crying for nerfs for weapons they don’t even have😂 Boo hoo I died to a gun I can’t get, please nerf it lmao.

I'll make the Halfdan and fighting lion OP fighting you..

I... I think you just don't understand how this game is played, or why certain guns are popular. You yourself just stated that you pretty much started this game, so you're probably unaware of a lot of things. Explanation for Trust: [spoiler]Trust is used because it's the only Precision Hand Cannon in Forsaken(aside from the Crucible Quest ones), and many have it due to Gambit. The Precision [i]archetype[/i], and not just Trust, is very adaptable, and extremely easy to use. It doesn't have the best TTK, but it has a very consistent and achievable one for most players. Other Precision Hand Cannons exist, like the ones from Curse of Osiris and Warmind, and function the same way. In fact, one from Curse of Osiris, that being the West of Sunfall 7(a Lost Prophecy weapon), is arguably far better than Trust, having access to much more potential Stability, Handling, High-Cal Rounds, and a larger magazine. And you never have to reload it because of Auto-Loading Holster. I'd love to see how you'd react to getting killed by a Luna's Howl or Not Forgotten. Same archetype; kills faster by one less shot. Why? Just because. And those aren't even exclusive to the DLC, so you can grind for them yourself this season(if you dare).[/spoiler] Explanation for Ace: [spoiler]Ace is used because it's a workhorse of a Hand Cannon. It's got great range, especially for its archetype, an always active Radar, High-Cal Rounds for more flinch, and a Kill Clip you can put in your pocket. The psuedo-Outlaw and Dragonfly don't matter much in Crucible, but can still be effective. The thing with Ace though is that it can be outgunned by(or trade with) plenty of other guns, provided you hit all your headshots. Its extra damage perk doesn't increase its TTK(unless you're at 0 Resilience), just makes it easier to achieve, and lets it contest from further ranges since it makes up for some damage dropoff. It shares the same TTK as every other Adaptive Hand Cannon in the game. The archtype gets outranged by Aggressive Hand Cannons, killed faster by Lightweights(in the [b]same[/b] amount of shots), and isn't as adaptable(oh the irony) as Precisions.[/spoiler] Explanation for Bygones: [spoiler]Bygones is in what's arguably the best archetype of Pulse Rifle, that being Adaptive. It's similar to Precision Hand Cannons, to where it doesn't kill the fastest, but kills the most easily. It's also the only one in Forsaken, and a good roll is easily accessible from the Drifter. It can get great perks like Kill Clip, Rampage, Headseeker, etc., and good stat bonuses to range and/or stability to improve its performance. There are other great Pre-Forsaken Adaptive Pulse Rifles that can easily contest or replace Bygones though(save for maybe an absolute god roll for high range and/or stability). Things like the Inaugural Address from the Leviathan Raid(which has both Outlaw and Kill Clip, and decent stability), the Impromptu(which may not have the best perk, but has far more range than Bygones will ever have), and Last Perdition(High stability and Rampage).[/spoiler]

no

Just started and already asking for nerfs? Go play Roblox kid.

Ahahahahaha🤣 oh man. Anyway aside from laughing hysterically after I read all of this, Ace, Trust,And Bygones are fine all together. There's nothing wrong with them at all, as of Forsakens release weapons are now random perk rolled. Bygones is naturally an all out blast to use, Ace Of Spades actually feels like a proper exotic. Trust, I haven't used much, but I've heard mixed reviews on it, mostly positive however. But if you're gonna complain about the current meta, just buy Forsaken, grind out the campaign, get Ace Of Spades and have a blast. Don't wreck the weapons because you haven't had a chance to actually sit down and get an actual feel for the gun. I promise you once you get those weapons, you'll change your mind

your pathetic post is way over used. it's not the weapons, it's you....

Go away loser.

Wow.

I...I don't know what to do with you.

Cool so those get nerfed and then everyone gravitates towards the next mutually agreed upon best weapon. It’s cycle that cannot be fixed or corrected

They don't need to be nerfed. Other guns should be buffed to match. Those guns are consistant and crispy. They should be the baseline for how a weapon feels

Honestly what did you expect when you started playing PVP? You said it yourself you just started playing D2. News flash - The other team is going to try and kill you with the most efficient guns in the game. That is true for every game that ever had PVP. Stop with this nerf nonsense.

Dude your calling for nerfs of weapon that don’t need it. I don’t normally say this but “git gud”. You can’t struggle that much and call for nerfs because you will struggle no matter what the meta is. Now I’m just average but you don’t see me calling nerfs. Why? Because when I die it’s usually my fault for going too aggressive and I adapt to get better.

Overused is almost never a good reason for a nerf. Look at where it got D1. You have summoned me.

Do you want graviton to come back? This will continue until everything gets nerfed and even then people will still complain.

If all the nerfers get what they want we'd be running around naked throwing cotton candy at each other and Shaxx has to flip a coin to see who wins in the end since the score is 0-0

You must be on PC or something, because here on console (or at least Xbox), I barely see any Aces or even Trusts for that matter...just Bygones Bygones Bygones...Hand Cannons have a hard time competing here.

2 WORDS: Use them

You know what I'm doing to counter Bygones. Working to get to level 12 so I can get my own. If you wanna complain then complain about a legitimate issue like sleeper in gambit.

U said u were new here... do not ask for nerds b/c bungle always takes it way too far. I think the other weapons aren’t overpowered but the others are bad / underpowered

The usage rates for Trust/Ace/Bygones is actually [i]far[/i] healthier than the usage for the top tier weapons was for... well, the rest of Destiny 2. None of the above break 10%, whereas weapons like MIDA and Vigilance Wing were pushing 20-25%. I agree with those saying that other weapons should be buffed--Trust is particular is pretty much what I feel a gun in Destiny Crucible should be.

quit asking for nerfs for christ sake. How bout we just nerf everything.

there will always be a meta. if you get your way now just be prepared to bitch and moan about another short list of guns later.