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Modificato da Spawn:
9/16/2018 1:12:40 AM
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Sleeper Simulant is ruining Gambit
I don't want to be the buzzkill here, I know many of us don't want to see things nerfed but this, my dudes is ridiculous. It can one shot you from anywhere on the map, body or head it doesn't matter. The invading player can see your location which gives them time to charge it up and one shot you. How is this not considered broken?
I could "get gud" or whatever but getting good still does not make gambit fun if I have to be paranoid that every invader is running sleeper. Yes, I could run sleeper too. I could go around one shotting invaders and defenders all day but that still does not fix the issue. If the only way to counter sleeper is sleeper that's a problem. I'm not saying nerf sleeper into the ground but it needs some tweaks, it's just not fun playing Gambit anymore when there is such an easy way to dominate the field.
I know many of you will fire back at this post because a lot of you most likely love sleeper and use it yourselves. However, I really want you to take a step back and remove your bias to really look at this weapon and then give your opinion on it.
[spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses.
Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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Your attitude is ruining Gambit
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I just don’t let it bother me.
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4 RisposteLet's go nerf one of the best and coolest weapons in the game because you're mad a linear fusion exotic can one shot from anywhere on the map. It isn't broken. It does exactly what it is supposed to do. If you are standing around with your Johnson in your hand when you hear enemy invading, you deserve to be shot. If you go to invade and don't assume they have heavy ammo and will be ready for you, you deserve to be shot. Don't go stirring the pot and getting one of the best PvE exotics nerfed because you have a bad time.
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2 RisposteModificato da PR4X1S: 9/14/2018 11:58:48 PMIs it annoying. Yep Can it be avoided. Yep But you will bleat and moan until the weapon is Nerfed into the ground, and ruined for the rest of us. I just use a tracking rocket launcher, soon as the invader arrives I actively seek them out using cover, take a bead hear that lovely lock on noise and WHABAM, their sent back to their own half. No need for a Nerf, or change here.
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2 Rispostebruh all you need is a sniper. They come prancing around the corner and you snipe em.
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1 RispondiNo one bitched about the gun until gambit came around 😂
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3 RispostePlayers lacking skill rely on it, and players lacking skill can't avoid it.
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8 RisposteNo skill players have to rely on it
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10 RisposteNo it’s not, you’re a crybaby, shut up and go away.
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By the time Bungie does anything it will be too late Either Bungie adjusts how much sleeper ammo you can carry in gambit or the game mode will die
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1 RispondiLonger charge time might fix? I too noticed this. Takes no skills. Losers use it.
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9 RisposteI always tuck myself in a corner, perfect paradox or my favorite rocket launcher ready to fire, you invade me, you better not turn that corner. I will put you down.
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5 RisposteSo restrict the weapon from gambit. I’m so tired of nerf herders making things less viable in other modes just because it has an advantage in one game type. Trials made the rest of the game worse with every revision it forced onto the game. Someone is giving up their exotic slot for sleeper. It isn’t a quick firing weapon. Counter it with strategy.
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3 RisposteI think a good way to help with this is not nerfing the sleeper but just take the invader seeing you through the walls thing. Tbh I think that’s what’s hurting gambit at this point more than the sleeper considering even if they nerf the sleeper to complete dog shit they will just snipe you by following your outline
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Or as a “balance” for communication and stuff they should have ONE and only one random player on the team have the invader visible... or whichever side the evader comes through, a bright light shines into the sky on his arrival via teleport.. just to give them a shot a defending against it or a super... maybe?
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6 Rispostewasn't sleeper orginally a heavy fusion in d1, why not just make it a heavy fusion rifle again
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4 Words: [spoiler]Alone As A God[/spoiler]
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1 RispondiI haven't played much Gambit and haven't even won a game in it. But I can admit I see the issue if sleeper in this game mode. But that's just it, it's this one particular game mode that sleeper excels at way too much. I don't know if there is a good work around with keeping the players happy with sleeper as an option for other game modes. Maybe take away the ability for Invaders to see the enemies but give them 30 seconds to hunt them down? Invaders already get an over shield so why do they need to know where the enemy is at all times?
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1 Rispondi*laughs in queenbreaker*
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1 RispondiA Non Bungie Employee Here, Teabag Specialist... Hello Guardian, you are now subject to the dragons effect... where I will be dragging my balls all over your head when I sleeper shot you!! Just kidding, no I'm not.
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3 RisposteModificato da One Shot Ted: 9/14/2018 6:30:23 PMI don't have Sleeper yet (can't be bothered finishing the quest, I hate Fusion Rifles and barely used Sleeper in D1), but I wouldn't say it needs a nerf. A more realistic fix would just be to not give invaders [i]literal wallhacks[/i] until the timer is halfway through. That would make it more of a "hunt or be hunted" situation, which would level the playing field a bit regardless of what equipment and subclass you use. [spoiler]I'd like to just have power weapons disabled outright while invading, but that's an extremely unrealistic expectation.[/spoiler]
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4 RisposteYa I agree, personally this should be the time where bungie should do a game mode specific rework. With it at the very least requiring a headshot to OHK in gambit.
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1 RispondiGambit is ruining Sleeper Simulant. Sleeper is love Sleeper is life!
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[quote]If the only way to counter sleeper is sleeper that's a problem. I'm not saying nerf sleeper into the ground but it needs some tweaks,[/quote] If I were Bungie I wouldn't touch it, I would remove it completely from PvP. And from now on, every weapon/armor/perk/feature that PvP'ers whined about would be removed from PvP related content. Problem solved, no more nerfs or tweaks needed.
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34 RisposteAll linear fusions can do that. Not just Sleeper. Are we going to whine about Snipers and bows next? I mean that’s the next inevitable targets. Learn where they spawn and get the jump on them.
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Yes. Yes it is.
