Hunters are going to be very good for team play, this bandwagon needs to end.
We have the ability to fill the super of the whole team and amazing dps.
Not only that, but we have potentially the best ad control in the game because the arcstrider super is extremely potent [b][i][u]AND[/u][/i][/b] the way of the warrior skill tree allows us to kill ads without running the risk of dying.
We also have the potential to have infinite golden gun. If 2 sharpshooter gunslingers hit 3 headshots in a row and pick up each other's orbs, that would fill both of their supers and they can do it again.
And if all of that wasn't enough to convince you, tether is coming back, which is possibly the most used super in any raid in D1.
[b][i][u]HUNTERS WILL BE FINE. CALM YOUR SHIT.[/u][/i][/b]
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22 RisposteModificato da Brandolier: 8/30/2017 4:13:04 PMONE hunter subclass on ONE perk node that we know of has the ability to fill teh whole team's supers. And Hunters DO NOT have higher DPS than anyone else. As a matter of fact, the weapons of light rift for Warlock and the reloading barricade for Titan BOTH make for more DPS than anything the Hunter can do. I watched a video yesterday of a Titan in the PC Beta on the Inverted Spire and he dropped the small Barricade and used the minigun exotic auto-rifle. He literally never stopped shooting. He just held down the trigger and as his ammo got lower he'd crouch and it would reload WHILE HE WAS STILL SHOOTING. I am sorry. The Hunter is going to be the LOWEST DPS class in the game. Also, Hunters don't have any better add clear than anyone else. A Striker can roam around and do 3 freakign Fists of Havoc. You better believe that is gonna clear adds. The Sentinal can basically Blade Dance while still having high defense and also throw one nova bomb, essentially. So Far there is a single perk node for hunters that is good, Way of the Sharpshooter. Try to put as many bandaids on it as you want, but 1/4 of the hunter skill nodes is good while 4/4 are good for the other classes so far.
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also i feel like most people's complaints were related to the class abilities. titans and warlocks have really good abilities that help their team (wall, rift) while hunters only get a dodge that reloads their weapon or recharges their melee and does nothing for teammates. they could have at least made it to where when a hunter dodges with a teammate near by that teammate would get the benefits of whatever perk that hunter is using. you could run up to your three teammates who are shooting at enemies, let them know you are going to reload for everyone and run though to hopefully pull some enemies aim assist to you, dodge to cover, everyone else is reloaded and can keep fighting.
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[quote]Hunters are going to be very good for team play, this bandwagon needs to end. (In my own opinion I have my doubts, but hoping your right and they have a use in raids, nightfalls, and pvp) We have the ability to fill the super of the whole team and amazing dps. (Probably won't be a whole lot, but hopefully useful) Not only that, but we have potentially the best ad control in the game because the arcstrider super is extremely potent [b][i][u]AND[/u][/i][/b] the way of the warrior skill tree allows us to kill ads without running the risk of dying. (Yay bladedancer...... who uses a bladedancer in raids anymore since using invis melee on Crota isn't a thing anymore? There are hardly next to none. Hopefully arcstrider works better but we will just have to see) We also have the potential to have infinite golden gun. If 2 sharpshooter gunslingers hit 3 headshots in a row and pick up each other's orbs, that would fill both of their supers and they can do it again. (Yes, 2 gunslingers can recharge their supers back and forth and super again... not game breaking at all. The super reharge rate looked shitty in the beta even with orbs and if they didnt check for this themselves they are stupid) And if all of that wasn't enough to convince you, tether is coming back, which is possibly the most used super in any raid in D1. (tether or golden gun with the helmet depends on situation) [/quote] Just my opinion at the present time, but will just have to see how they play and have more accurate data to go off on
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Modificato da 2fresh2bkilled: 9/1/2017 4:53:44 AMAs a Titan Main who mained hunter for the beta, I can confirm this. In fact, Hunters are really good with way of the outlaw. The 2 hit kill super sounds bad, but it fires quickly and you can hold the trigger for full auto. I was dominating with it in the Beta, but I will always play Hammer Guy.
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36 Rispostei love the dodge. It doesn't dodge bullets it doesn't dodge melees it doesn't dodge grenades it doesn't dodge supers so why is it called a dodge?
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if they stay like this they wont be fine. I main hunter in d1 and mainly pvp (I'm not good by any stretch of the imagination) they cant run fast, they cant dodge , their jump is better on pc than it was in the console beta but still nowhere near the mobility needed. I ended up playing the fastest class in d2 instead ... the striker titan and ran down hunters in the crucible with my shotgun or smg using my titan skate which does work if you know which jump to use. and ate them like I was at an all you can eat buffet.
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2 RisposteWait, does sharpshooter refill the entire super bar?
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1 RispondiModificato da ramthesocket: 8/29/2017 3:56:03 PMAnyone who doesn't like hunters should stop complaining and become a [b][i]Titan[/i][/b] master race [b][i][u]Bubble bubble bubble[/u][/i][/b]
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3 RisposteHunters take no skill to use, Take Hunters out of the game
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3 RisposteModificato da Georgahh: 8/30/2017 1:54:09 AMHunters are gonna suck who the hell cares about ad control you can do that with a gun
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1 RispondiThe idea that a bladed staff is what Hunters should use is absolutely bogus. It doesn't fit in anywhere within lore, inspiration for them, or characteristics. There are a great many [i]actually bladed[/i] weapons that fit the character much better. Seriously, spread the word.
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Agreed all I want is my golden gun to be buffed. Maybe hold 25 bullets last the whole game and have a infinite shield, not much to ask for
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Modificato da SaferMurderweapon: 8/30/2017 10:54:52 PMI just want the old shadestep back. Keep the reload and melee refresh. Both have merit, but outside PvP the dodge is less a dodge and more of a DPS utility
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We also have Nightstalker
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4 RisposteA majority of who I saw complaining were hunters
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6 RisposteThe title of this post reminds me of my girlfriend during sexy time.
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5 RisposteI just wanna say Titans suck
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1 RispondiWarlock : I'll heal you! Titan : Get behind my barrier! Hunter : You two need some super orbs? One moment I'll get them for yah!
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Dawn blade,sentinel,and fist of havoc all can do ad control just as efficiently as arc strider. Arc strider has nothing new and is the same as or worse than the other sub classes. Golden gun is pretty good but it only has the orb regeneration going for it. I don't play hunter as much as titan or warlock and even I can tell their class ability mainly needs a buff.
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I agree, hunters are a awesome class that will do just fine in raids. (And I main a warlock)
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12 RisposteConsidering how shitty the beta abilities are, and how slow they recharge, I don't think the 3rd subclasses are going to be any better. Every ability so far has been weak as shit, and slow as -blam!- to recharge. Bungie is killing the fun of PvE to cater to PvP garbage.
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Hunter is run by a lot of kids and kids tend to whine for whatever reason.
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Kunters suck. I'd take a titan 10xs over the purple kunter. Obvious tool post
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Modificato da monkeydancer: 8/30/2017 2:01:07 PMInfinite golden gun is awesome if the damage is worth it! I've seen many vids of people testing which weapons do the most damage, 1 vid I saw was at atheon sleeper vs ex-machina vs black spindle vs golden gun (as super keeps recharging while in aura) The golden gun didn't produce as much damage as the other weapons and that was with celestial equipped. So in short what's the point of infinite golden gun if the damage doesn't match its "super" status? This was done hitting the sweet spot each time for max damage. Also 1 of the things hunters are complaining about is the lack of attention compared to the other classes - titan and warlock got 1 new subclass and 1 re-worked subclass, hunters got 2 re-worked subclasses now we don't know much about the 3rd subclass yet BUT from what we have seen it's a re-worked tether. Now you mention amazing dps - where from because I didn't see any amazing dps compared to the other classes? I understand your post but everyone is entitled to their own opinion your post is your opinion and plenty of others have put up posts with their opinions. You saying stop your posts because I'm right and know better really isn't going to stop it.
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I'm a big fan of the dodge that reloads your gun. SO GOOD.