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A teacher says his middle school students believe the Earth is flat because basketball star Kyrie Irving said so

[quote]Every year Patrick Engleman plays a little trick on his students. The high school chemistry teacher introduces his ninth-graders in suburban Philadelphia to an insidious substance called dihydrogen monoxide. It's "involved in 80 percent of fatal car crashes. It's in every single cancer cell. This stuff, it'll burn you," he tells them. But dihydrogen monoxide is water. He says several of his honors classes decided to ban it based just on what he told them. The lesson here isn't that teenagers are gullible. It's that you can't trust everything you hear. In a time when access to information is easier than ever, Engleman says that his current students have much more to sift through than his past students. These days kids come in with all sorts of questions about things they've read online or heard elsewhere. And science teachers aren't immune themselves. Earlier this year, Engleman received a booklet from the conservative Heartland Institute. The packaging included a cover letter, "glossy book and a CD" advising teachers to be skeptical because scientists — it says — are unsure about the cause of climate change. According to Heartland, one of these booklets will be sent to every public school science teacher in America. And those teachers could be a receptive audience. A recent study out of Penn State showed that one-third of science teachers are open to the idea that climate change could be naturally occurring, instead of human caused. This poses a particular challenge to people like Susan Yoon, who are training the next generation of science teachers. She's a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Graduate School of Education. She tells her students — like Nick Gurol, whose middle-schoolers believe the Earth is flat — that, as hard as they try, science teachers aren't likely to change a student's misconceptions just by correcting them. Gurol says his students got the idea of a flat planet from basketball star Kyrie Irving, who said as much on a podcast. "And immediately I start to panic. How have I failed these kids so badly they think the Earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?" He says he tried reasoning with the students and showed them a video. Nothing worked. "They think that I'm part of this larger conspiracy of being a round-Earther. That's definitely hard for me because it feels like science isn't real to them." For cases like this, Yoon suggests teachers give students the tools to think like a scientist. Teach them to gather evidence, check sources, deduce, hypothesize and synthesize results. Hopefully, then, they will come to the truth on their own.[/quote] This is really sad.

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  • Modificato da MuKoKu: 7/28/2017 9:47:42 PM
    Why do atheists concern themselves so much over what other people believe?

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    • Modificato da Tosevite 187: 7/29/2017 2:09:59 PM
      With the information given I'm going to go out on a limb and say the kids are probably just messing with their teacher like Krishna does on here. Especially since it's phrased in a way where the majority of the kids in the class think the earth is flat. I mean my favorite thing to do back then was mess with teachers too so... Also scientists are not sure about global warming. It needs to stop being taught as a fact with definitive outcomes and solutions because every single year predictions change fairly dramatically and not all aspects of the planets climate system are understood. A simple example is if you take the IPCC's most recent report it will differ from most other reports aimed at predicting the same thing. Actually given their predicted economic impact (like thats even a real estimate) it would be better for everyone economically to not waste money on subpar climate change policy and technology but just go about our business as normal. The 'science' is built upon many wild guesses and arbitrary predictions and they have no supporting data for drastic mitigation policy. Yes you should limit pollution and do your best not to harm the environment in every way possible from dams, to improper waste disposal, to oil spills but all this pseudoscience about CO2 being the devil detracts from other issues and makes something that may or may not be an issue into the single focus.

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    • What you should learn from this is to question many of your own beliefs taken from the Hollywood elite, uber rich left politicians, and the California hollier than thou attitude.

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      • While I believe they are correct about the shape of the earth, one shouldn't blindly follow someone else. They will remain unenlightened, and unable to think for themselves. This truly is really sad, but it's also how round earthers get their "knowledge", except the teacher in this instance is the basketball star.

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        • Flat earth theory is the lamest meme ever. Kyrie be trolling.

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        • This is why most athletes are not role models.

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        • The entire idea of this is kinda flawed. They're saying "don't believe these people because I'm right and they're wrong". I don't think the earth is flat but this is basically the message in this article.

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          • If the world is round, how come all the water hasn't flowed to the bottom? #flatearthlogic

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          • If the earth was really flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.

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            • People are stupid. Crazy how people idolize other people, believing what they say.

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            • School is stupid. All kids should drop out and go out and go on cosmic adventures with their scientist grandfathers or focus on science.

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              • What does this tell you about modern day celebrities

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              • Everyone in my elementary school thought if you didn't look at the screen, it greatly increased the chance to catch Pokemon. Kids are -blam!-ing dumb, and that's not news.

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                • Fun fact, D.J. Reader on the Houston Texans doesn't believe dinosaurs existed.

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                • [quote][quote]Every year Patrick Engleman plays a little trick on his students. The high school chemistry teacher introduces his ninth-graders in suburban Philadelphia to an insidious substance called dihydrogen monoxide. It's "involved in 80 percent of fatal car crashes. It's in every single cancer cell. This stuff, it'll burn you," he tells them. But dihydrogen monoxide is water. He says several of his honors classes decided to ban it based just on what he told them. The lesson here isn't that teenagers are gullible. It's that you can't trust everything you hear. In a time when access to information is easier than ever, Engleman says that his current students have much more to sift through than his past students. These days kids come in with all sorts of questions about things they've read online or heard elsewhere. And science teachers aren't immune themselves. Earlier this year, Engleman received a booklet from the conservative Heartland Institute. The packaging included a cover letter, "glossy book and a CD" advising teachers to be skeptical because scientists — it says — are unsure about the cause of climate change. According to Heartland, one of these booklets will be sent to every public school science teacher in America. And those teachers could be a receptive audience. A recent study out of Penn State showed that one-third of science teachers are open to the idea that climate change could be naturally occurring, instead of human caused. This poses a particular challenge to people like Susan Yoon, who are training the next generation of science teachers. She's a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Graduate School of Education. She tells her students — like Nick Gurol, whose middle-schoolers believe the Earth is flat — that, as hard as they try, science teachers aren't likely to change a student's misconceptions just by correcting them. Gurol says his students got the idea of a flat planet from basketball star Kyrie Irving, who said as much on a podcast. "And immediately I start to panic. How have I failed these kids so badly they think the Earth is flat just because a basketball player says it?" He says he tried reasoning with the students and showed them a video. Nothing worked. "They think that I'm part of this larger conspiracy of being a round-Earther. That's definitely hard for me because it feels like science isn't real to them." For cases like this, Yoon suggests teachers give students the tools to think like a scientist. Teach them to gather evidence, check sources, deduce, hypothesize and synthesize results. Hopefully, then, they will come to the truth on their own.[/quote] This is really sad.[/quote] Hm

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                • This pretty much sums it up.

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                • Just because it was [i]you[/i] that posted this, the majority of users will now start believing that the Earth is flat.

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                • I agree. I have no clue why this is getting so popular. I have respect for flat Earthers for investigating and calling out NASA's when they lie however they use very old models and experiments that have not been replicated in order to prove the flat earth. If they could be replicated i would give them more credit. I also like that they call out the religion of science when people blindly follow things with little to no knowledge on the subject. However not everything can be a fish eye lens, or photoshop, or a cover up. Heck asteroids, lunar cycles, and light mechanics all disprove a flat earth just to name a few. Lets take asteroids as an example. Flat earthers claim that the earth is surrounded by a dome. They also claim that the Operation Fishbowl program attempted to break the "dome" with missiles, nukes etc, and found it to be unbreakable. Yet asteroids can pass through without impacting on the dome? This is something they dismiss completely because they have no answer. If it were a impenetrable force or even a solid object we would see asteroids impacting on its surface not making it to the ground especially smaller ones. I just find it hard to believe that everything has been a lie and coverup for 5 centuries especially with simple things that can be observed that contradict the flat earth model. I love that they question NASA and old findings, because that is the true nature of a scientific mind, whereas others blindly believe and never question but their model falls flat, no pun intended, on many aspects.

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                  • OK, middle schoolers is bad, but how about adults?

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                  • Is this a real thing? Or are a couple of middle school fools' beliefs being overly sensationalized as a problem that applies to all?

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                  • Popular culture is literally becoming [i]Idiocracy[/i].

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                    • Krishna = Kyrie Irving

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                    • There must be some seriously *stupid* kids out there, oh and 1 basketball star too.

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                    • Well then those kids are stupid, and they believe in a fundamental truth of reality for all the wrong reasons. Yes, the Earth is indeed Flat. But stupid is stupid whether you believe something just because a dumb athlete or Albert Einstein said it. These kids should be taught the basics of philosophy, especially those of empirical thought. The understanding can only be consistent with reality, when the senses percieve reality consistently. Too many "Flat Earthers" are just as lost as ball believers.

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                      • Hahahahahahahahaha. [spoiler] ha[/spoiler] [spoiler] made you[/spoiler] [spoiler] look[/spoiler]

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                        • Lol

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