I think if people love PVP go play Call of Duty, Halo, Battlefield, overwatch, rainbow six, gears of war and etc. Destiny should of been PVE only game, PVP gamers let them go so where else and stop making this game crap due to cry babies crying about crucible balance on YouTube and other forums/social media. looks like the cry babies are winning, I think those guys should just break their consoles and leave

Stick to pve then by your stats u suck at pvp. You have a ton of days played but you mostly played pve.

[quote]Edit- THE FANBOYS ARE HERE!!![/quote] Apparently so are the morons!!

It's just boring to shoot things with a primary for 20 minutes in a strike. I liked shoulder charging, chaining supers, shotgunning things to a pulp, ripping through with swords. After all, strikes aren't end game content, so they should be kind of easy and fun. Raids should be the coordinated team challenge that requires communication and execution. Make PvE great again! Let us mow through it with the skills we've acquired over the past 3 years, and the new players will still find it difficult. I can't imagine how tough this new strike is for brand new console players.

I'm spewing mind salad below. Just a bunch of thoughts. I like pve and pvp. I think I've played more pve as my friends don't like pvp near as much as I do, but I can't say what I would prefer. Pvp after a raid is always a fun way to goof around with friends. Except now in D2 we will have to say, alright player x and y GTFO. I'm going to play crucible with these other 3. I'm sure y'all can go lfg some more folks. I'll say my mindset may have been more what is called "fanboy" before beta release as I firmly believe I need to try something before I criticize it. After beta, I'm rather worried that D2 is going to be a play through the story, and a little pvp and set the game aside. As it stands, d2 doesn't have even 1/8th of the life expectancy of my destiny 1 experience. If supers and grenades cooldowns were cut in half, their cooldown would still be slower than destiny 1 abilities. Why must bungie always over do any of their nerfs? Why does the cooldown and effectiveness of abilities both have to be gutted? Shotgun and snipe as a power weapon may work in pvp (roaming one shot machines), but in pve, that concept sucks monkey nuts. With the current drop rate on heavy ammo being as abysmal as it is, we are doomed to run through an entire strike and just slowly tickle enemies to death with mediocre primaries. I don't know how they can completely change the loadout possibilities (shotty and snipe being heavy slot) before actual release, so I'm very nervous for that level of change. Hit detection in crucible seems way off. I've missed shots that know I should have hit, and I've hit shots that I feel like I missed by more than 10meters. I love the concept of the story we may get in D2, but my excitement pretty much ends there. As I have dropped more than 3000 hours into destiny and had immeasurable fun with friends, it saddens me that D2 may be the end of my destiny road.. I can only hope they make this game more like what it was. We wanted more story, more gear, some more experienced, but I seriously doubt most folks wanted this completely neutered version of destiny.

I'm relieved I didn't pre-order.

I think it's pathetic how they are trying so hard to fix pvp which can never be competitive and ruining the rest of the game in the process. E sports would laugh their asses off if bungie applied to them. It cannot be competitive when you have supers and different classes and abilities. It's not possible. I feel like the people who work at bungie either have no clue or are just following orders from 1 head guy in a office who has never played the game. Summary The bungie reputation is damaged Bungie are making some really questionable decisions for the future of the game They are almost certainly losing players If this beta was a way for them to show off the game and attract new players to buy then it's been a disaster.

Bungie seems to think they could have a MLG worthy game if they tinkered with it enough. It'll never be Halo/COD so I'm not sure why there is such a heavy emphasis on PVP here. From Bungie's perspective, PVP is the cheapest/easiest route for the game however, again, it'll never be MLG worthy. I think if they put in the effort to flush out the story, add side missions, beef up on raids/strikes, it could be quite enjoyable. I feel that, at some point, Destiny will turn into COD where it'll be 99% PVP with a set story mode/campaign that you can play whenever the network is down.

Ok seriously no. THE PVP IS INSANELY BETTER THAN D1. Do you understand that Primary gun battles? Something everyone begged for, weaker grenades to eliminate one shot sticky spam? Yeah please stop complaining because complain hard enough, WELL BE BACK IN STICKY NADE SIDEARM META YOU GODDAMN SCRUB.

Please Watch the Latest IGN Destiny Video, the one about lost sectors and public events. This is a Neutral comment please feel free to like or hate accordingly.

[b]Bungie, in D2 please bring back...[/b] Everything that was in D1 because anything new is not welcome around these here parts... Also, anything old or "re-skinned" is not welcome around these here parts either. In fact please somehow make everything exactly the same and familiar but new and exciting without straying too far away from what's familiar, but not too different either. Actually, scratch that. Please nerf stuff before we use it, but make sure everything is balanced before we use it, but not too balanced otherwise everyone will use the same weapons, which will mean you'll have to nerf them, but please FFS, stop nerfing stuff. God... I hate D2, worst game ever. [spoiler]Yes, I'm back posting this same tired old post again... Kinda like all the same tired old posts like the one we see here.[/spoiler] [spoiler]Whichever side of the fence you're sitting on, you're still here playing "Destiny: Forum Edition".[/spoiler] [spoiler]I'm betting 90% of those hating on Bungie and anyone who doesn't share their negative points of view will buy Destiny 2... See you in September![/spoiler]