As said before : Bungie pisses on player Player: Stop doing that !!!! Bungie pisses on player Player : Stop doing that !! Bungie pisses on player Player: please stop doing that :( Bungie throws a towel at the player and says "Wipe yourself off kid" Player: Thanks Bungie, you are the best😘 I mean really.

It's not fun. Had no problem adapting. It just sucks the fun out of it. I run around in PVE using mostly a primary. There should be a playlist that doesn't do this with special ammo.

Yes it's so great. So much variety with everyone using Pali or Luna. So much variety with everyone running icebreaker. So much fun

The complaints are not entirely about the nerf... It is the forced meta of having selected special weapons ready to go any time. It is a balance issue and is not favored. Have all special weapons ready or none of them. In 6 v 6 games, not as noticeable, but in 3 v 3 game modes, it is not balanced. I am and have always been a primary player but to force me to choose between an icebreaker or sidearm to be competitive as soon as I spawn is not right. I am all for meta changes and I like destiny because of this.., but going forced meta is not a good option. It is a crutch because bungie can not balance certain guns that created the issues. For instance, shotguns were, for the most part, how they should have been... BUT, then came the matador. The matador is STILL op compared to all other shotguns but due to the design of the game, there is no way to fix the one shotgun. No matter what they do, players starve for the fastest time to kill or the most amount of damage as fast as possible. If bungie has an issue with specials having this advantage, then fix it. Do not take away certain guns because of it. Do not mess with the flow of the game due to players waiting for special ammo to adapt because other players will not just sit down and wait for you to get special ammo. They will use that information to take advantage of it because two types of weapons will be ready to go that will give an advantage. Now, I do not cry about it or create posts, but what you are defending is a flawed design and not a fix to the issues that are at hand. The special ammo situation with certain guns giving an advantage is not a fix to a problem, it is an splint made out of toilet paper.

yeah great. weapon diversity is even lower now than it was in the good ol' shotgun primary days

The special nerf was a lazy fix to the problem. Loosing all special ammo was a little absurd in my opinion and I think having 1 mag at spawn is reasonable because that's a maximum of 4 shots. It would make the game more fun in my opinion because I enjoyed sniping in the crucible. I'm not the best at it but I enjoyed it and the new special ammo change made everything except sidearms and ice breaker obsolete in the crucible.

Outside of lag/cheaters I've been having fun in crucible. I feel for the matawhores/ sniper scrubs, but I'm enjoying the different weps I'm having to play against. Peeps keep listing a few guns, your wrong, or only played a few matches; I for one run a zarinaea d and telesto( when I have ammo, I use it; otherwise 99.9% AR). Ran into that God hawksaw, waltz, unbent tree, image loop, Parthian shot, angel advocate, like no other, thorn, tlw, Carlo, continental, lingering song, mida( of course), felwinters lie, mata, morgue, con theory, trespasser, havok, Jabbe, on and on, on Sunday alone. Everyone seems to be( outside of finishing some bounties) using loadouts that work for the, make them better, which in turn makes us all better. Win/win U a rando and want to slow those circle jerk 3-6 man fireteams? Load up telesto, and spray those first 8 shots u have. It eats clumped fireteams up. Spread a shot while they sitting on b, and clean up with AR with crowd control. ✌️

The crucible is great...it's the connectivity that sucks.

Having so many weapons and abilities getting the crap nerfed out of them is not "great". It makes the game less fun and satisfying to play.