I'm not entirely sure, but the Infamous Thorn Wielding Bastard Dredgen Yor wasn't always called that, right? Go read the "Cathedral of Dusk" Ghost Fragment. Tell me if his name was Zyre Orsa or Orsa Zyre of if I'm just being a crazy dipshit again. (I'm looking at you Fal Chavam, get cracking.)
Here is the Card.
TYPE: POST-MATCH REPORT
PARTIES: Two [2], One [1] Guardian-type, Class Titan [u.1]; One [1] Guardian-type, Class Hunter [u.2]
ASSOCIATIONS: Cathedral of Dusk; Crucible; Dreadnaught [Saturn]; Hive; Lord Shaxx; Oryx; Rings of Saturn; Saturn; Taken; Thorn, Vale, Dredgen [AKA Orsa, Zyre]; Yor, Dredgen
//AUDIO UNAVAILABLE//
//TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS.../
[u.1:01] Thorn, huh?
[u.2:01] Freshly-crafted. You like?
[u.1:02] A little risky playing with something that’s been known to kill Guardians, isn’t it?
[u.2:02] Look where we are. Everything in the system’s been known to kill Guardians.
[u.1:03] Sure. But there’s facing trouble and there’s asking for it.
[u.2:03] This isn’t like the stories we’ve heard about Yor. Vale figured this out. Tamed it.
[u.1:04] Can you tame a sickness?
[u.2:04] Good question. Let’s go pick a fight and find out.
Edit: So it appears that this dude is not Dredgen Yor, but rather a Orsa Zyre, a Hunter, who rebuilt or recreated Thorn, but that still leaves alot of questions that need to be answered. Also, nerf ogres.
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Dredgen yor was the first guardian supposedly
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1 RispondiHave you seen myelin's latest video on Dredgen Yor? It's really interesting and in thinking someone like you would like to see it! [spoiler]Dredgen Squad![/spoiler]
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12 RisposteNah its Rezyl Azzir, read the latest Rezyl card he literally meets Xyor and she tells of his downfall
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3 RisposteModificato da Haffoc: 9/21/2016 10:59:10 AMIt's a group following in Yor's footsteps, probably setting up for the Y3 Thorn quest. They call themselves Dredgen Vale - Zyre Orsa Dredgen Bane - Teben Grey [quote] The Cauldron TYPE: POST-MATCH REPORT PARTIES: One [1]. One [1] Guardian-type, Class Warlock [u.1] ASSOCIATIONS: Cauldron, The; Crucible; Grey, Teben [AKA Bane, Dredgen]; Hive; Lord Shaxx; Moon [Earth]; Orsa, Zyre [AKA Vale, Dredgen]; Thorn; Yor, Shadows of //AUDIO UNAVAILABLE// //TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS.../ [u.1:01] We were facing a full squad. I recognized a couple of them—Orsa, Teben—but they were different. Decked out in dark gear and set to intimidate. I took it as an attempt at psychological warfare— up the creep factor in a creepy place. But it was more than that. They had changed.[/quote] [quote] Blind Watch SUBJECT: THREAT ASSESSMENT PARTIES: Two [2]. One [1] Guardian-type, Class Warlock, Vanguard Designate [u.1]; One [1] Guardian-type, Class Titan [u.2] ASSOCIATIONS: Blind Watch; Buried City; Cabal; Clovis Bray; Crucible; Exclusion Zone; Lord Shaxx; Mars; Meridian Bay [Mars]; Orsa, Zyre; Vanguard; Rey, Ikora; Thorn; Yor, Dredgen //AUDIO UNAVAILABLE// //TRANSCRIPT FOLLOWS.../ [u.1:01] I’m assuming you’re aware of the events on Mars. [u.2:01] The results from Blind Watch? [u.1:02] Yes. It may be starting again. Not saying it is, but we need to keep an eye on any who would seek to retrace Yor’s path. [u.2:02] [b]Agreed. But Orsa and his friends seem to have contained what Yor could not.[/b] [u.1:03] A dangerous assumption. The Thorn’s pestilence is becoming commonplace.[/quote]
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1 RispondiJust snatched up that PSN DredgenVale gamertag
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23 RisposteEver since rezzyl Azzir was introduced it has been speculated that he was yor. With the new card it's pretty much confirmed. What class rezzyl is is still up for debate though. Most would argue Titan.
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I interpreted this : a titan and Hunter are at the cathedral talking about reforged thorn - one of them is dregen Vale (aka zyre orsa) - not to be confused with dregen yor - after their convo the titan and hunter go to crucible to begin testing
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2 RisposteWe have sith Lord's in destiny.
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9 RisposteModificato da Ketch of the Day: 9/21/2016 6:40:27 PMThorn is mentioned at least seven times in those Ghost Fragments, and in the Cathedral of Dusk one, Thorn is mentioned as being "tamed" by someone. Makes sense, considering Thorn is the only weapon known to be capable of killing a Guardian permanently as of right now, so it would need to be toned down for "competitive balance". If you know something I don't, feel free to correct me on anything.
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I got the impression from blind watch and timekeeper fragments orsa was a guardian retracing yors footsteps and changing his name to dregden vale in the process
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2 RisposteLook up Myelin Game's video on it. It goes over things very well
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1 RispondiWho cares? Kill em' all I say.
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10 RisposteNah, it was Rezyl Azzir. I guessed that the second I read his card
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1 RispondiDoes it matter? The writer could have made Yor any thing they wanted, it's make believe. He could have made Yor a thrall at once.
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[quote]Tell me if his name was Zyre Orsa or Orsa Zyre of if I'm just being a crazy dipshit again. [/quote] Do you know how to read?
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Do people naturally ignore the , when reading ?
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4 RisposteCorrect. Still no connection. Only theorists grasping at wet noodles saying it's spaghetti
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2 RisposteCan u post the grimore card.
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4 RisposteModificato da Fal Chavam: 9/21/2016 2:37:27 AM[spoiler]I'm flattered. 😊[/spoiler]I believe that person's name is Zyre Orsa who seems to have made a second Thorn. Unclear if the original Thorn was used to make the second.