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Modificato da Zanyiiism:
8/18/2016 8:50:54 PM
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Is it just me or is this period of crucible the worst its ever been?
Crucible is just the worst its ever been,the balance ,the meta, the lags, the spawns. Its all just bad don't you agree
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Mida, uni, last wurd, sniper ftw
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You must have not been here for House of Wolves Era crucible. You know, the only time in this games history where only 3 weapons were used 90% of the time. Thorn "ridiculously overpowered crutch weapon", TLW "insanely accurate with the fastest ttk", and Felwinters lie "basically a sniper". That was the worst crucible meta there was.
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3 Risposte*hunter gets nerfed* "this game is in a bad state, don't you agree?"
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7 RisposteNo. I thought the same. I really thought it was worse than Y1. Then I got gud. I started using MIDA and a fusion rifle and started wrecking. Talking about 2.0 every IB match.
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2 RisposteCough house of wolves cough
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22 RisposteThe meta is probably the best its been in Y2. You can go into crucible right now, and use anything just as well as people use Doctrine and MIDA, so long as you have the skill. For example, I went in with Fabian Strategy once about a month or so ago for shits and giggles, and I went positive. You couldn't do that pre June update.
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100% agree
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23 RisposteNot even close. It is probably the best it's ever been. Is there anyone here that even remembers the 2 shot thorn, or the ADS 2 shot TLW? Or the fact that you used to spawn with 12 shotgun/sniper shots and picked up 6+ every special drop? Or the fact that Heavy ammo spawned twice a game, and that when you killed an enemy with heavy, they dropped heavy ammo for you to use? Or even the fact that Blink shotgun used to be the biggest plague in Destiny? Or the fact that Hammers used to be feared? You heard "clank" and you ran. Or the fact that bladedancers used to be the best subclass in the game? When it comes to red bar... that's a "case by case" problem. I've not noticed any increase in lag then there has been day 1. Spawns are a bit questionable.. but has always been like that especially in Rift. Destiny's PvP, is about as balanced as it has ever been right now. I'm seeing all kinds of weapons around. Kind of crazy how people think this is the worst. Just because you've been around for the current state of PvP, doesn't mean you can decide if it's in its worst state "ever". Not even close to being close.
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15 RisposteQuick question for anyone- is the radar a bit screwed up? Doesn't seem to be picking up players until I'm dead a lot of the time. Never used to be an issue.
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Normally I would play all the time, but I get the bounties done and turn it off. It's no fun right now. SBMM and all the nerfs have totally sucked the life out of IB.
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I agree nerf fusion rifles.
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The current state of the Crucible is pathetic. SBMM has ensured that every game is a sweaty lag fest full of moon walking, bullets penetrating walls and raid boss red bars. Special ammo needs a severe nerf. The fact that you have to either snipe or shotgun all game to do well is just sad. Primaries should be exactly that, a primary not the gun you use when you run out of special ammo. Year one was so much better than this garbage.
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Agreed, the crucible is pretty terrible right now. I've tried so hard to like it. I just don't. It's too inconsistent. Too laggy. Too unbalanced. Primaries aren't primaries. Characters are too uneven across the board. Bungee has made too many changes and adjustments based off of charts and not off of what really matters..... Fun.
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2 RisposteMost unbalanced than ever but that's my opinion. I prefer shotguns. I say buff shotguns and nerf snipers. Sniper players will think differently. Shotgunners get called scrubs Sniper players get called campers and boring because it doesn't take skill to watch one door way. To what I think is balanced won't be to someone else. There's no right and wrong. The next time bungie balances subclass and weapons my suite me and I'll be saying it's balanced whilst someone says it isn't. Then then do more balancing and call bungie out for breaking it. Yet someone else will love it. Fact is bungie can't please everyone at the same time. It will just keep going in roundabouts. We just have to make do with it.
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Time to kill on everything needs to be improved so that good snipers don't have an unreal advantage. Lag needs to be addressed. I'd rather lose to pros every game than die because I'm trying to shoot laggy mcdickweed for 10 seconds get killed by his team and then have him die afterwards.
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The lag is terrible. Spawns are unreal. It's a crapfest!
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Right now the meta and Balance is actually really good however the lag and spawns on the other hand.....
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2 Rispostea game of iron banana just started being me vs 6 should it have even been allowed to start? What happened to matchmaking?
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Everything was too op, it needed to be nerfed, so now everyone's just running around with shotguns playing murder tag.
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This morning I played about an hour of iron banner, and counted how many gunfights that were won without teamshot, without shotties or snipers, without nades and I can tell you it wasn't pretty.
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5 RisposteModificato da King Nis: 8/17/2016 11:17:55 PMI think the over all balance is adequate right now. There's always room for improvement, however, I feel it's been pretty good lately. I have noticed the increase in lag and just horrible spawning locations. Last night alone, I was on a pretty hefty losing streak being dropped into matches that were already have over, etc - and spawned right into a Bladedancer using his super, respawned into a Nova Bomb and then again right into the lane of a sniper on Rusted Lands. Rage had begun to set in at that point, but unless spawn locations are reassessed there's nothing one can do. Edit: For grammar.
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1 RispondiI would have to agree, the reason is the current game encourages camping and playing very passive. I an hoping supremacy helps get people to move around the map a bit more and be more mobile. I am not saying everyone needs to rush super hard with shotguns but people need to move around the map a bit more and actually challenge players. Playing IB Clash the past few days I have almost zero times where to opposing player challenged me. I was always the one to make the challenge while they sat there camping in the back of the map just hard aiming with a sniper or primary. Outside of this if you do like to use shotguns it can be very difficult at times to push and be aggressive in less you are in a party with multiple players playing super aggressive and even then the other team will probably being camping so hard and playing so passive they would be ready for it. Each play style should have its ups and downs, aggressive play with a shot gun or dare I say it fusion rifle is very good on certain maps and does well when you stay in the right areas of the map, however in ranged gun fights you are at a disadvantage as well as Shotguns and fusion rifle are very inconsistent. Using a sniper and playing super passive allow you to sit back pick off easy kills with little to no threat from the enemy in less you are in a sniper lane. "Well people can still flank you and get up on you with a shotgun", Honestly with this play style the only way they get close to you is if you are blind and do not watch the radar at all. TLDR: The game currently encourages super passive and campy play styles. If you use a shot gun or fusion rifle you are at a disadvantage in most cases.
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No, the Crucible is not the worst its ever been. 1. The balance among primary weapons is the best its ever been. If you're disciplined enough to stay in the optimal range of your weapon, you an find a way to compete with just about anything right now. That was not always true. 2. But primary weapons as a whole are UP right now. The TTK is too long. So the spamming of SPECIAL weapons and certain abilities (like shoulder charge) are ***almost*** as bad as its ever been. Though there were times early in Year One where the situation was even worse with shotguns and fusion rifles than they are now. But sniper rifles have never been this out of control. 3. The lag overall is better, but the player population is down...and the player skill level is up. So the lag is much more noticeable and annoying. 4. Spawns aren't that different. You just run into a LOT more teams (especially if you're PUGging) that employ strategies where they just do laps around the map, and team shoot everyone. This can---especially if they break up into two or three man groups and there is no "sidedness" to map control----lead to some REALLY bad spawn situations. Because the spawn protocols probably weren't designed to deal with that possibility. Yesterday in an IB match I literally spawned in front of a Warlock winding up to hit someone else on my team with Nova Bomb. Had time to take one step away from my spawn point before I was dead again. Its not "all bad". But I dont' think its going to get significantly better until Bungie goes to dedicated servers and buffs primary weapon TTK back up to something reasonable
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Lags and spawns.... That's connection based and very subjective. I enjoy the current Meta. I think you can be competitive with a wide array of weapons whether it be your primary or secondary. Think about this: Pulse rifles: Grasp and Hawksaw variants can both be competitive. Hand cannons: TLW and Hawkmoon variants can both be competitive Auto rifles: Doctrine Scout: Mida Secondary: multiple snipers can rez snipe and the perks make the weapon which is the players preference. Shotties have Conspiracy, Party crasher, Invective, Universal Can't speak on Fusions cuz i suck with them. That's a wide array of weapons that can be used in today's Meta and doesn't include the weapons that still can be fun to play with but not "sweaty" competitive with. Do I think they should buff High Cal rounds? Yea, so you can challenge a snipe with confidence but I'm perfectly fine with this Meta and welcome future changes they make that can bring other variants to the forefront as well.
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2 RisposteNot sure what's going on in crucible with hit detection. Some games one shot kills, next game couldn't kill anyone if I had a full auto gally that fired rockets that released heat seeking hammers that nova bombed everyone.
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My conection always starts in green but at the middle of the match I become red and the piñata of the enemy team.
