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Modificato da Kingpriest:
6/19/2016 1:42:07 AM
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Shoulder Charging Titans
okay, I don't care if you don't like my post. that being read... enjoy the rant.
SC needs a nerf.
it is OP as hell. now that being said, I don't have a problem with SC on its face value. a secondary melee. sure but either make it use the melee cooldown for a 1HK or make it a 2 HK. as in if you use SC without the melee cooldown being complete then it doesn't do lethal damage. OR
give the other classes a way to counter the SC. I have used my melee many a time to counter the SC to the death of my guardian. often it is a kill for the SC titan also but not always. so
long story short.
1.either keep it the way it is and give the other classes the same thing.(non-nerf)
2.keep it the way it is and make it require the melee charge to 1HK otherwise its a 2HK (non-nerf)
OR
3.nerf it so they can continue to spam it like they all do because they cant fight and let it be a standard 2HK (like all melee W/O using a full charge)
these 3 choices are actually very reasonable.
EDIT1: look people. its simple. if you can not add to the post for or against it w/o resulting to lewd or crude posts you will be removed. this is meant to produce conversation and if you can read then look at the OP I listed 2 non nerfs and valid options instead of nerfing it.
EDIT2: wow lookie all these replies. if you cut out the chaff (those that just want to complain or say :git gud" (learn to spell) and so on then it is drawn about 50-50 against and for. many can agree on one point or another listed above) many I have had intelligent conversations with and compromises have been reached on both sides. please continue the discussion. I welcome and enjoy all views expressed but please keep it clean or I will remove the post
EDIT3 557 replies holy hell. All i wanted was to start a discussion... i think i did that
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#Destiny
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If warlocks can one hit kill people then so can strike titian. If a trip mine grenade used to one hit kill them oh well.
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Modificato da Colloquial_Bloke: 6/17/2016 4:56:46 PMStriker Titans are supposed to be a close range, brawler class. But.... We have the worst melee. Shoulder charge is all we've got. Warlocks have ranged melee, even if they don't have a charge... No one is complaining about that. I honestly don't think that it's overpowered. You need to sprint to activate, and then run in a straight line towards your opponent. Easy target. If they're getting you around corners... Well, if it wasn't the shoulder charge, it would have been a shotgun melee from a warlock. If you don't run around ignoring your radar, you might be able to see these things coming. Believe it or not, there is some strategy involved in Destiny, though some people would like to change that.
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Strange that it took people almost 2 years to start complaining about this. Have you guys run out of things to nerf.. can't remember last time a shoulder charge killed me.
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Shotguns and fusion rifles argue your "no counter" argument is invalid.
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2 RisposteSo first off shoulder charge is NOT easy to use. Secondly, there are plenty of counters. -Prime him with a grenade, back up and finish him with a primary. -Use a shotgun to finish him before he hits you. -Back up until you can get a better angle. -jump over the bastard There are plenty of other counters but you get the point, SC is not broken man.
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7 RisposteIf you complain enough about it... bungie will nerf it "Shoulder charge, while having a higher than normal risk reward factor, was a little stronger than we had intended. As such, shoulder damage has been adjusted so that it will no longer be able to one hit kill fully armored guardians. In addition to this, we have noticed titans shoulder charging in a way that was unintended. Yes, we are talking about slide - animation shoulder charges. As such, we have edited shoulder charge so that it will immediately deactivated if the slide sequence has been issued." Lol tell me this isn't accurate AF?
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2 RisposteIf it was two hk it would be useless a normal melee would do the same thing and you wouldn't have to sprint for a few seconds to get it
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I dont agree with the cool down. I do think they should be knocked out of SC whenever taking damage. It should be a ohk, be a quick charge up, but not be able to charge through bullets.
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Its not op, its only annoying in 6v6 because theirs so many people you have to pay attention to. Its mediocre and countered so easily but extremely fun
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3 RisposteIt's fine it has a cool down and you have to sprint. Also a smart players will see it coming. [spoiler]guess you don't fit in that category[/spoiler]
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I main a titan and SC is not a sure kill. I can't tell you how many times I have been killed trying to pull a SC off.
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1 RispondiGo ahead and nerf shoulder charge, then watch the monsters you'll create in crucible
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Modificato da Orpheus49: 6/17/2016 3:25:43 PMShoulder charge is one of the easiest things to avoid in the game, it's extremely predictable and makes titans have to put themselves in a lot of danger to hit. They deserve a 1h melee since Thier range sucks and general neural game is meh too Their linear and predictable movement also makes it increadibly easy to avoid. If anything, I'd say shoulder charge needs a hit detection buff
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I can't remember the last time a shoulder charge killed me lol. It's so easy to counter
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1 RispondiIt's pretty much the only[i] reliable [/i]"melee" the Titan has, isn't as easy to use as folks think, and is not that difficult to counter. I've killed plenty of times with it and have gotten killed plenty of times out of it. There is not one thing wrong with it, so no, leave it alone.
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Making it a 2 hit kill would make it useless... I would then just run juggernaut with a shotgun. Teehee.
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I like how a lot of people say it isn't easy to use it curves around corners and up in the air from ground level and automatically aims at the nearest guardian infront of you how is that not easy to use
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.88 overall k/d is telling me you engagements and counters are poor to begin with. Starting backing up and jumping more.
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I think it's fine tbh. I do use it quite frequently, that being said i never fair to well against a shottie or fusion. I will admit that i might get a little cocky when I'm in mid sc and run straight into a group then end up plastered to a wall while thinking " If i could get just one of them " lol.
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So you're sad that you got killed, right? Because they didn't deserve that kill, you did, right? Did you consider the 2 or 3 times that you did get the kill prior to that point? Or are we on the stance of, " I'm 100% better than other people always, and if they beat me it's because the game is wrong."
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[quote]okay, I don't care if you don't like my post. that being read... enjoy the rant. SC needs a nerf. it is OP as hell. now that being said, I don't have a problem with SC on its face value. a secondary melee. sure but either make it use the melee cooldown for a 1HK or make it a 2 HK. as in if you use SC without the melee cooldown being complete then it doesn't do lethal damage. OR give the other classes a way to counter the SC. I have used my melee many a time to counter the SC to the death of my guardian. often it is a kill for the SC titan also but not always. so long story short. 1.either keep it the way it is and give the other classes the same thing.(non-nerf) 2.keep it the way it is and make it require the melee charge to 1HK otherwise its a 2HK (non-nerf) OR 3.nerf it so they can continue to spam it like they all do because they cant fight and let it be a standard 2HK (like all melee W/O using a full charge) these 3 choices are actually very reasonable.[/quote] You sound like you're about to cry :) 'whoosh, bosh' they could do all of the stuff you mention or you could start watching your radar? If you're consistently getting killed by shoulder charge then there's something wrong with the way you're playing, not the move that killed you.
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I feel like it should use a melee charge but other than that it's perfectly fine the way it is. Maybe fix the way you can slide and still shoulder charge afterwards.
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12 RisposteGood job on those raids.
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Fusion Rifles, Sidearms, or Shotguns. Snipers [i]can[/i] take out a charging Titan, but that's nowhere near as reliable as melting them head-on with a fusion rifle.
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27 RisposteModificato da Ciudecca: 6/17/2016 3:17:07 PM1. Use a shotgun 2. SC isn't OP and actually requires [u]skill[/u] to be [u]used effectively[/u]. 3. I can't check but I think you are a salty Warlock who lost his little firebolt [b]Edit[/b] : Checked. Someone is salty that an ability he had was nerfed because it was OP
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1 RispondiYou should use your titan more because I don't think you know just how much luck goes into shoulder charging an opponent.
