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Modificato da Joseph888s: 2/26/2016 6:07:23 AM
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Just played an Iron banner game where....

Nearly everyone used snipers except for like two people. Me and some other enemy. We both used side arms and both got like... one or two kills with them. Why? Snipers everywhere down every lane and corridor possible. Inside or outside. I went on a deathstreak because of them. Wait........... this is every game I join! And you people wonder why ohers cry about snipers. Well... there you go. Solution to this problem? Dont Nerf snipers. Just remove their aim assist to make thingss more fair and buff everything else. Fusion Rifles and Sidearms in particular.
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  • brocookie, fusion rifle master race.

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    • Well, I use a sniper as I've gotten really good with it. I'm also a person that doesn't like to sit in a sniper lane. Primary first, then special, that's my train of thought when I'm playing.

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    • TL;DR warning in spoiler: [spoiler]Let me start by saying that I think snipers need to be reexamined. The reason I argue against nerfing AA is because 1) people are disillusioned about how it works with snipers and call for nerf when it’s not the issue and 2) why nerf something when it’s not an issue? First, allow me to present the argument that AA isn’t the issue.  I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you know what it is but those who are less familiar, it seems as though AA is related to how long your reticle slows or sticks to a targets hitbox.  I’ve linked some vids for those who would like some perspective at the bottom of my reply.  If the average player (that’s me) were to compare the “sticky” between a high AA and a low AA sniper, I may notice the difference as a few fractions of a second.  The fact also remains that you still have to get the reticle onto the hitbox for it so slow regardless.  Now throw in a moving target into the mix and it’s not as easy for the average player (again, me) to hit a moving target. I would argue that AA doesn’t equal and easy button for snipers because you still have to adjust for and or anticipate where that dome is going to be. A good sniper will pick you off with virtually any sniper regardless of the aim assist. My argument against AA is that it’s not the problem Why does everyone use 1kYS? 1) because it’s easily accessible, 2) it has higher impact that can kill an overshielded or super’d opponent. What I think is the real issue: 1) res overshield, 2) lack of variety within the same archetype of SR. Revives and the overshield you get from them are the biggest reason you see high impact SR’s in any game mode with them.  Res sniping is a major focus for snipers because of this and there are only a few SR’s in the game that can do this currently.  Other options, off the top of my head are the Eirine but I’ve never had one drop for me and I’ve only ever seen it sold by the gun smith twice.  Black spindle will get the job done but you can’t change the scope, it doesn’t have as good of stability making follow-ups on misses or multiple targets more difficult and I takes an exotic slot. Stillpiercer is similar but slightly worse base stats, has one possible roll, and is locked to the hunter class.  No Land beyond can res snipe if the Master perk is active but it’s a short window to pull this off and it has a steeper learning curve to be proficient.  What I think would help the issue: Remove overshield from the person who died and is now getting back up. Maybe slow the handling speed, ADS, and movement speed of higher-impact SR’s.  As it is, if I die in a trials round, I’m given a reward for my teammate picking up my slack.  If I didn’t get the shield, my teammates have to be more conscious of where my res is and how vulnerable I’ll be.  Since I’m not shielded, any sniper (assuming we’re of similar light where power matters) can keep me down and thus providing more viability to a variety of SRs. Also, bungie could release new snipers within the same archetype (we will possible get new weapons in the spring update).[/spoiler] Mtashed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRJ4CdU8sMk TrueVanguard - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUq8MmQ__2I Planet Destiny - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WIVLXxfPFM TL;DR AA isn’t the issue; there’s a lack of variety among higher impact snipers and a reliance on res sniping.  Remove overshield from the dude who died to begin with, maybe slow the handling speed, ADS and movement speed of all higher impact snipers, add more higher impact snipers.

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      • Stop Cryingg scrub.

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      • There will be a nerf. My guess: snipers will lose scope if head shot. crosshair will shake more the longer you hard scope. Reduction to body shot damaged

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      • Well bungie saw too many people were using shotguns so they nerfed them to the ground and all the snipers started sniping even more than before

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      • Hahahahaha remove aim assist....hello team body shots

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      • All of the most boring ass matches I've played in over 1200h of destiny over the last 14 months have been in the last 6 weeks. Nothing but mida and sniper, or tlw and sniper. I'm so sick of being double body shot, or body shot and finished off with primary, or head shot from 8' away. Not saying nerf anything, but it's boring as hell

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      • I think one of two things is going on. Your skill based matchmaking is completely an effect, or there just aren't many new people playing at all. I don't think I've been in a match yet or someone has been under 4000 grimoire

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      • I'll never forget the match I played where the entire opposing team was using snipers, all crowded together in one spot and was to dumbfounded by the sight to throw a grenade or something. I prefer that to people running around the map using only a shotgun.

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      • I tried to use something besides the stare...didn't work. Had to adapt.

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      • Certain maps will always have snipers... Adapt overcome simple process I've made plenty "snipers" change back to shot guns mid match because they get so pissed off at me idc I prefer a sniper nothing like hearing that bullet crunch through your skull cavity mmmmm "I'm touching myself tonight" -deadpool

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        • Tell me if I use a sniper as a crutch. Many snipers do play like scrubs who try to go to two spots on the map to camp and get all their kills, but as annoying as they are; they are easy to sneak behind and normally don't get very many kills. Just if you do decide to snipe back because you have to, know when someone is better than you and just flank the dumba$$.

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        • Ayyy you're on my friends list. But yeah I agree, snipers are too overused. I personally liked the year 1 blink-shotgun better, just because it was a much faster game. Those were the times when you could sharpen your PvP skills. Now it's just a camp fest. A slow game.

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          • It's not aim assist it's target aquisition that makes you hit so easily. The bullets also hit immediately and in a straight line.

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            • Do you have the iron banner fusion rifle? That thing is MONSTROUS.

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              • Sorry, but sniper rifles are my favorite special weapons, so I use them the most. I have been using sidearms in PvP on my Warlock sometimes though.

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              • Modificato da alvin2503: 2/26/2016 6:44:04 AM
                I got 14 kill at the end of the match. 10 of them are shotgun kill. Im at the top. What is this? [spoiler]then again, conspiracy theory D can be considered as a sniper[/spoiler]

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                • True, pantheon is the worst if your team sucks and only tries to counter snipe (and fails)

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                • The sniper sniper issue has been a bit less of a problem now since I had to get used to snipers again but yeah it's very annoying

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                • I get a group of 6 together every friday, we get drunk and destroy people in the crucible. We also spend 30% of our time tbagging people. This has been our friday evening for the last month and we play for quite a few hours so you have probably been bagged by all of us. I even wanna bag you now...

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                  • Also, use a sniper you scrub.

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