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Modificato da skillisgillis: 10/14/2015 11:39:13 AM
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For those who didn't believe in the 'slippery slope' of Silver...

Notice how in the return section of Eververse Shop it says: "[b][i]Consumable[/i][/b] items are nonreturnable" Notice how there currently aren't any consumable items in the store, only emotes. This means that you can assume they'll be adding consumable items sooner or later. Current consumable items in destiny provide XP boosts, glimmer boosts, and even increase to exotic/raid drop rates. Making these available to buy with silver will make it pay2win, which the majority of you denied would ever happen! I can see it now. A 'free' raid with ridiculous drop rates, and the only way to increase them is to buy a consumable item that increases them. EDIT: [spoiler]They also nerfed the drop rates for motes, strange coins, and weapon parts today. Coincidence?[/spoiler] EDIT 2 (Jackolytes): [spoiler]For those of you bringing up the jackolytes, notice how they are the only cosmetic consumable item (along with the other halloween item xur sold). They only last for a limited time because they coincide with a holiday, and like their holidays, these consumables also last for a limited time. I think that people wouldn't want to pay real money for something that only lasts for a limited time, and has no real impact on your game. I also think bungie would be logical enough to realize this, leaving the only possible consumable items to be ones that effect progression and would make the game pay2win. Also, only adding jackolytes wouldn't be a bad thing(although i would never buy one). I think we should all be more concerned about the potential of pay2win items.[/spoiler] EDIT 3: [spoiler] People have spotted new consumables in the Database. Some Max out your subclass and increase raid drop chances. Whaddya know?: http://db.destinytracker.com/items/consumables/consumable [/spoiler] EDIT 4: [spoiler]Just stating that this is just speculation and I only know just as much as all of you, and don't claim to be 100% right. I'm not trying to argue, whine, or be hostile with anyone either. :] Also, I don't want to be right because these changes could ruin the game for myself and a whole lot of others.[/spoiler] [b]EDIT 5(Urgent): Statement from Luke Smith: "We aren't (nor are we planning) on selling consumables that buff King's Fall drop rates for Silver." While I'm sure a lot of you are pleased(like myself), he seems to be avoiding the possibility of adding other consumables in the shop, like motes, strange coins, and other items we've been talking about. Seems shady if you ask me, but we'll see...[/b]
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  • Check out @thislukesmith's Tweet: https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/654213224007503872?s=09

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    • Genuinely can't wait for the consumables to be bunny ears that last 24 hours or some shit.

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    • Plenty of new games coming out, been playing since the beta like many of you but if this shit is true and the game turns into a world of warcraft game were you have to buy everything im out. This game is headed for a straight nosedive. WTF!!!

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    • Bump

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    • I don't care halo 5 coming out soon so you guys can have fun with bungies mess.

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    • Luke Smith Confirmed this wasn't happening. https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/654213224007503872 [quote]We aren't (nor are we planning) on selling consumables that buff King's Fall drop rates for Silver.[/quote]

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      • Modificato da BJGITGUD244: 10/14/2015 8:01:02 AM
        I would dare to say Bungie are experimenting with a way to bring in constant money to pay for the development of content patches(new raids etc) in-between expansions. I believe they are trying to develop an alternative system to the subscription fee other games charge to maintain the system of content patches. This is hardly 'pay to win' and I think you have really got things messed up if you are one of the people throwing a tantrum already. Infact, Bungie has stated that those who buy silver will be no stronger than those who don't. Speeding up the leveling process doesn't really affect others in any way. Go with it for now and lets see what Bungie give us.

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        • _________________ | Bungie | | Is. | |Unfair. | |_________________| (\__/) ||  (• - •) ||  / う  __________________ | Deej and | | Cozmo. | | are in there. | |_________________|  (\__/) || (• - •) || / う __________________ | Standing. | | At the | | Concession. | |_________________| (\__/) || (• - •) ||  / う  ____________________ | Plotting | | Their. | | Oppression. | |__________________| (\__/) || (• - •) ||  / う [spoiler]don't really care, done once Fallout 4 is released anyway.[/spoiler]

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        • https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/654213224007503872?s=09 Confirms Raid buffs aren't coming to Eververse store.

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        • While it looks bad atm it could be along the gta v route with free dlc but only time will tell

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        • Personally, I wouldn't care. I don't get much time to play each week and with the nightfall boost gone grinding has become less of a chore and more torturous, to the point I'm thinking of quitting the game. If bungie releases paid for exp boosters, and if they're reasonably priced, and if I don't get completely waylaid by SWBF, H5 and ROTTR, these consumables are gonna be the only thing keeping me playing destiny.

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        • If you ever learned something from year one, is to never, ever believe s single word Deej says. So far every single "adjustment" has been to push more into the old pre TDB grinding system, not to mention the horrible raid drop system, and the brilliant idea to limit the amount of marks we get a week. Really this update pretty much went against every single thing they said since TTK was revealed. So don't be surprised to see an extra coins drop consumable soon on Tess store. In fact looking at the ones on the list makes the drop rate on KF make sense, it was meant to be to make us buy the drops consumable.

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        • Oh shut up -blam!-ing moaning.ffs.

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          • If this happens I'm out. They will lower drop rates to make these a necessity. When that happens, later. I'll wait and see

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          • if they only add in consumables like heavy sinths or black wax idols, things that you can get easily through normal gameplay, then i will be fine with it. just dont make things that are only able to be obtained by silver or a one time event

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          • I'll bet the bungie twitter exploded

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          • Conjecture! Slippery slope! Lack of evidence! No one has any idea what their plans are. Dont like micro transactions, but I aint running their business. Most any of us can do is stop supporting the game when we think its more than we are willing to pay.

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            • Modificato da CajunBoy83: 10/14/2015 8:16:30 AM
              Glad I looked at spoiler 4, because that's exactly what is, speculation, and assumptions. Reading through posts though, I see a lot of pitchforks are sharpened and ready. See what they do first, then throw a fit.

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            • [quote][b]Bump/Like this topic so it becomes trending. The more people see this the better, so we can all give our opinions here and let Bungie know we don't want these items being sold.[/b] Along with the addition of the Microtransactions today, if you visit the Eververse Trading Company Item Returns menu you can see "Consumable Items are nonreturnable". This means that Bungie WILL add consumable items soon to the store, even though there are none yet. Today, as well, added to the database armory with the patch, are the following consumables: List of Consumables to be sold from Eververse Trading Company soon: •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1281917992-heuristic-light]Heuristic Light[/url] - Buy additional moldering shards during the King's Fall Raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2937851017-indomitable-light]Indomitable Light[/url] - Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a normal mode King's Fall raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3004954978-valorous-light]Valorous Light[/url] - Buy more likelihood for armor and weapon drops during a hard mode King's Fall raid. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1524965721-hunter-level-25-starter-pack]Hunter Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2941899280-warlock-level-25-starter-pack]Warlock Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/592011859-titan-level-25-starter-pack]Titan Level 25 Starter Pack[/url] - Buy level 25 instantly, fully level any subclass instantly, and receive several telemetries to gain XP quicker. •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2488251899-subclass-infusion]Subclass Infusion[/url] - Buy a fully leveled subclass instantly (Fully upgrades your currently equipped subclass) •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1053112404-bone-trinkets]Bone Trinkets[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from The Fallen for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3348846756-void-shackles]Void Shackles[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Hive for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/199830403-spent-displacer]Spent Displacer[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Vex for 10 minutes •[url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/2111706071-campaign-medals]Campaign Medals[/url] - Buy Increased XP Gains from Cabal for 10 minutes [i]We don't know what the chances will be if you use these buffs to obtain extra raid armor and weapons but expect they will be absolutely unfair, otherwise there would be no reason to buy them. I wouldn't buy extra raid armor chance if I didn't notice significant changes, for example. I pretty much get moldering shards every single checkpoint right now, likely on purpose so they can sell these things. Expect the XP buffs will also be downright unfair as well.[/i] ----- How we know these will be sold from the Eververse Trading Company: [spoiler]A "Starter Pack" is not something you obtain to begin with. Usually with that connotation it's bought, but regardless, the starter pack leads you to level 25, the same level a Spark of Light gives you. Spark of Lights still exist and are in the database, untouched. You only get one during the Taken King purchase, although these Starter Packs will likely have to be bought if you want to fully level another character in the same way, with even more benefits. It's extremely unlikely you obtain this and if it's Bungie's interest to already give you a Spark of Light with a $40 TTK purchase, you shouldn't trust them not to sell them with additional benefits. I'm not going to beat around the bush, there COULD possibly be ways to obtain heuristic light, valorous light, and indomitable light. Those consumables increase your likelihood for drops in the Raid, be it normal or hard. Although, the fact these, and along with the XP boosts such as Campaign Medals (which increase Cabal XP gains for 10 minutes) were all released together in the armory on the same day WITH the much more obvious "starter packs" leads me and anyone with common sense to believe these are part of the same principal and are to be sold as well.[/spoiler] "Ha, you call this Pay to Win?! This isn't pay to win. It's just buying additional raid armor and weapons, subclass upgrades and xp boosts. That's not pay to win. Stupid." : [spoiler]If you honestly think this isn't pay-to-win or that Eververse Trading Company products won't get worse with time, you're an idiot. Not even going to bother arguing with these people.[/spoiler] Take a moment to really think about whether or not you want to invest your time into this game any further, as this is a 10 year game and I really doubt the microtransactions will get less egregious than what's already put into the database and soon to be released into the game. The slippery slope isn't only slippery, it's -blam!-ing wet. Already. Now all of you understand why the forums were condemning micro transactions. This SHIT ruins games. I won't stand for this. If this gets sold, I am quitting. I have 2,700+ hours of gameplay invested and have been playing since Day 1 with over 7,000 Crucible games across my characters. Do I care about my progress? Absolutely. Does Bungie care enough to not undermine everything I've done? No they don't. Clearly. So goodbye Destiny, if these micro transactions get added. It will only get worse with the next 10 years ahead. Now I understand why I only get moldering shards and 4 chest pieces despite the "smarter" reward system Bungie implemented with Year 2. What a joke.[/quote]

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              • i hope they sell exotics so i can shoot the poverty stricken cryhards with my meglogjallarhorn.......

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              • Im going back to battlefield if they do this, I'd much rather pay for dlc than play a pay to win game. It takes the fun out of it for everyone.

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                • I swear, I'm on the edge with this game, They make it paytowin and I'm done

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                  • It's not pay-to-win, its pay-to-gamble that they're toying with. And in a game aimed at teens, it'll get em indicted, so I hope Deej is setting aside some of that sports car money for lawyers.

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                    • I'll buy all that stuff. Why? Because I can.

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                      • The recent developments are a huge retrograde step to me. It looks like I may be moving on from ttk sooner than I thought.

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                      • Worst part is planet Destiny, datto and other Destiny dependent YouTubers/streamers will of course kiss Bungie's ass and try to convince players why we're wrong about Bungie being greedy and how we should be thankful we can give them more money.

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